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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year 1980

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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is spoke radio

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how you doing how you doing today's

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today's monday september 19th

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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i'm here with jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing it's

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another amazing week here on fade to

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black kicking it off tonight

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very special guest

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geraldine orozco is with us she's back

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tonight we're going to talk about

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making contact

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and what to do with it

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that's right

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i cannot wait

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for this show tonight tomorrow night

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on this very network right here

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christina gomez

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a discussion her and i have never had

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tomorrow night i want i want to know

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what it's like

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to just go out there and discover the

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because that's what she's doing one

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subject at a time what what what what

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what what what makes that happen we're

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going to do all of that tomorrow night

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and much more with uh christina gomez

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writer director producer and journalist

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melissa tiddle is with us and i cannot

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wait for that i've been working with

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eight years somewhere somewhere in that

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neighborhood she's never been on the

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i'm always doing something but uh

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wednesday night melissa tiddle is with

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us thursday night to another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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i will be hosting i will be emceeing

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the conscious life expo again this uh

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february 10th through the 13th 2023 at

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one of the biggest events of the year

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the big city the biggest conference of

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its kind it's ginormous and

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it's so much fun and i say it every year

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to the fader knots i say it every year i

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say it every night leading up to the

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until you have experienced the conscious

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life expo you're not going to get it you

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it's that's bench that special it's it's

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and uh man i had a heck of a weekend

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talk more about that in just a bit but

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i gotta say after a weekend like that

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of relaxing you need you need time to

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relax you gotta after the relaxing all

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right that's what that's what you gotta

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right after the conscious life expo i'm

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there nick pope is going to be there

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brad olson is going to be there

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links are below come and hang out with

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uh antarctica is back in the news and

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see antarctica in the news i think of

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brad olsen man

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he invited me on that trip too and i

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just couldn't make it happen

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uh bucket list so but he pulled it off

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i just went to palm springs i went to

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joshua tree uh this weekend

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and everybody i posted pictures uh uh

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i'm gonna talk more about this

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but uh the fade develop the fade to

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black jeep was the expedition jeep too

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as well i filled it full of people we

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and uh i gotta say guests in the car

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why my eden pure thunderstorm cranking

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in the hot sweaty desert i've got my

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right there usb plugged in i've got

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cascading in the car i've got billy

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carson getting i got i got elizabeth

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hoekstra four other people in and out of

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i'm not worried about a thing it's usb

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out of sight plus the usb cable just

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drops right down out of the console so

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nobody knows it's there they can't see

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it i just enjoy the comments

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jenny is this a brand new jeep

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how old it smells brand new yes it does

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and thank you for that and thank you

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eden pure eden pure thunderstorm three

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pack special right now

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get three save two hundred dollars

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free shipping it's that simple to do

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kill all those viruses and funky things

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inside of your car it's the best way to

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go

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and uh i don't know who the fader knot

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was but i did see the post

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i got it it's right here jimmy's right

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save 200

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check this out it's that cool promo code

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is fader3 the links are below you can

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at jchurchradio

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yeah that's right follow me right there

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on twitter the sandbox is hashtag f2b on

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on twitter ken priest are you coming on

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ken i think ken is indicating he's

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coming on the cruise with us

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i think that is what ken is indicating

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ken you and i on a cruise ship

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that is a scary thought my man we got to

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do that let's get to the breaking news

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because zahi haiwas

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i know what you just want what yes

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check this out zahi haiwas the previous

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for antiquities affairs in egypt

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is part of the egypt-led team that

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undertook a high-profile excavation in

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luxurious valley of the kings that

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allegedly uncovered ambulance once owned

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by king tut

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and then haiwass drops this bomb hawa

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of queen nefertiti

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zahi i can't do a zahi impression should

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i do it in october

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we will be able to announce the

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queen nefertiti that's right he says

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he's going to do it next month

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in october that's a direct quote in

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all right also archaeology

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in the news

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partially exposed human remains and rock

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have been discovered on the banks of the

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villa konoda river leading to machu

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culture directorate in cusco

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archaeologist francisco wakaya

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said the images including the sun and

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geometric shapes

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were painted on different parts of a

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huge rock

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he thinks they could be associated with

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guardian deities in the form of

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mountains and may have a funerary

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very interesting no images posted yet

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but when they do i'll get those to you

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have you seen this video

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i have it's incredible

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because two

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extremely rare mega mouth sharks were

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captured on video off the coast of san

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david stabile uh was fishing with his

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friends val uh kosesco and andrew chang

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when they saw the mega mouth sharks

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that's plural

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in the videos

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which were shared on twitter and

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facebook the sharks can be seen slowly

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swimming very close to the boat

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one swims closer to the surface while

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the other can be seen a few feet below

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megamouth is a species of deepwater

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shark that was only discovered in 1976

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and is rarely observed by humans they

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can grow up to 18 feet long and are

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usually found at depths between 3 000

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and 15 000 feet that's right discovered

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1976 united states navy

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uh megamouth shark got caught in a net

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not a fishing boat it was the u.s navy i

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don't know what the net was doing in the

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water but it got tangled up and that's

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when the mega mouth was discovered 1976

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that's right

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with the addition i just told you uh

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that uh antarctica is back in the news

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and i i've got to do elon musk news

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right so

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this time i'm combining the two

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what

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that's right

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with the addition of the mcmurdo station

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in antarctica

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spacex

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and starlink

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now reaches all seven continents

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yesterday spacex ceo elon musk tweeted

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that the high-speed internet service

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routed through earth low earth orbit is

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truly available globally the service has

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just recently become active in africa

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starting in mozambique and nigeria and

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is rolling out by the end of the year in

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the philippines

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and that will start making inroads into

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south east asia that's right

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mcmurdo station

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in antarctica

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that's nuts

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let's get this show cracking on this day

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in history

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otd 1957

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the united states detonates a 1.7

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kiloton nuclear weapon

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in an underground tunnel for the first

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time

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at the nevada test site

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just north

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of las vegas

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can you imagine back then

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you know 57 58 59 60 dean martin

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you know the rat pack and all the other

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glamour

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that was going out in las vegas

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and

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one of the things you know the casinos

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right

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prime rib dinner for 1.99 you would see

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the

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you know you see how and

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nuclear

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test tomorrow night we're having a party

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people would gather

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and watch the nuclear tests going on

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a hundred miles away in the desert

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that's

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jessica honey are you gonna wear your

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black dress tonight i am and i got your

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mother's brooch on

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it's so glamorous

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you know out there with their glasses on

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watching these things think about that

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it's safe smoke a cigarette while you're

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watching the nuclear detonations right

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good times

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fader fact

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all right here you go this is a good one

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they're all good but this is

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extra special

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the cornea

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of the eye

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is the only part of the body

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that doesn't have blood

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no blood supply

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no blood

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in the

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cornea that's right

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it gets its oxygen

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directly

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from the air

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and that

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is your fader factor why don't they do

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why don't they

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yeah whoever designed us

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but yeah the cornea yeah that's a good

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fader fact right there you can drop that

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hopefully

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you know who you make the bet with

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doesn't listen to fade to black which is

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the majority of the planet so you could

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probably win you know quick quick hunsky

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maybe drinking game

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huh

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oh a drinking game with fader facts

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i like that all right

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very special guest very special week

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here on fade to black tonight gerald

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dean orozco was with us i was uh just

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with geraldine

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um in sedona and

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uh

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we later on that night

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uh i watched her entire presentation it

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was great but later that night we were a

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guest at a house

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and uh geraldine and i

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had an opportunity uh to just

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uh get some alone time in and just sit

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and talk and we did for for about an

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hour

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and

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uh

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i just find her so so dynamic and so

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um

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her the way that she presents and and

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shares her information it's just so

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compelling she's just an amazing speaker

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and and i told her that i said i just

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want you i'm fade to black every month

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okay we can do that well uh we're

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kicking that off tonight geraldine

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roscoe is with us

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tomorrow night christina gomez now

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i realize i'm on christina's show every

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single week and i have so much fun doing

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it why isn't she ever on fade to black

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you know why is it that that i get to

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enjoy this and

422
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and and going hunter shouldn't she have

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some fun shouldn't she be able to come

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on fade to black she should so tomorrow

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night christina gomez is here

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wednesday night

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producer director journalist writer

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melissa tiddle right here with us

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tomorrow night i've been working with

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melissa for a number of years she's

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great she's amazing she's uh not only

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super smart

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but um

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she asks questions and then she turns

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around and makes movies about it her tv

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series

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um she is so good at what she does she's

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one of the very best and that's what

439
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,480
we're doing this week

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all right we have geraldine with us we

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have christina with us we have melissa

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with us

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three of the very best and brightest

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this week here on fade to black thursday

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night is another fader night with open

446
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lines all night long all right now let

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00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:19,279
me hit this river moon coffee again i've

448
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:20,559
been drinking it through the whole show

449
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:28,950
um what was i going to say

450
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:33,039
oh oh so this batch french press this

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batch

452
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when you french press it you can do a

453
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couple of things i mean immediately you

454
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french press it can be ready in five

455
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seconds ten seconds depends on how

456
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strong and if you just let the french

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press sit

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i'd give it 10 minutes

459
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:53,039
and just let it sit and the grounds

460
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start to pass through it and collect on

461
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:57,520
the bottom because when you first do it

462
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,799
they're all floating there at the top

463
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,960
and you gotta push through it but

464
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:02,559
if you let it sit and

465
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,640
then when you push it it just goes right

466
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,000
straight to the bottom

467
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:08,960
and then when you pour it

468
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:11,520
it's dark

469
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,029
fade to black blend

470
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:26,080
river moon coffee

471
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i like my coffee doc

472
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,360
i do

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00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,600
it's my normal voice

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00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,520
that's what's really weird

475
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:38,159
this is just my normal voice the quieter

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00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:39,279
i get

477
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:42,640
you know in volume this thing happens

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00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,679
and when i get louder it it it it tries

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to go up and pitch

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but it can't

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00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:52,080
it tries it dries it tries

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00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:53,919
see that's as high as i can go right

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there it tries

484
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:05,510
rivermoonwellness.com

485
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,669
go back lee tappy

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00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:08,960
all right

487
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,520
you ready

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00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,880
uh

489
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:14,159
so

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i just spent the weekend

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with the forbidden team

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00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,440
that's right billy carson

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elizabeth hoekstra

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and uh their four guests matthew percy

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sheena and brian

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matthew came in from new jersey percy

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came in from

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and brian was here in southern

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california in pasadena

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and um it was it was amazing so we got

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and that sounded weird

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[Music]

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wow

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some action going on

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this is what we did so we went out

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saturday night we were in joshua tree

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and and had a sky watch saw a few things

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00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,320
it was cool we it was just great just

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00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:16,400
sitting there we had a great dinner

510
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,919
we went out got back gathered chairs in

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a circle

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00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,679
had all the gear and we just sat and

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00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:26,080
talked about life and and watched things

514
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,000
in the sky but saturday night

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00:27:34,390 --> 00:27:32,720
man okay so we uh we get everything

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00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,400
together it's the gear we got a couple

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of vehicles um and

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00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,520
we head over to giant rock and

519
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,600
uh when we got there there wasn't that

520
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,520
many people i was expecting you know

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because there's a lot of off a desert

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vehicles out there where they race in

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00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,200
the desert and

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lots of uh

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00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:55,520
uh camping and rvs and and all of that

526
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:56,720
i've been out there with you know

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00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,440
there's been 30 40 50 of them there or

528
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:02,240
wasn't it when we pulled up yet anyway

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so

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00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,919
uh we get together and next to giant

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rock

532
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,799
and i'm looking where should we set up

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00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:11,039
the chairs tonight and here's giant rock

534
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:12,640
down here and it's taking up half of the

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00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:15,440
sky so we can't sit next to it but next

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00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:18,720
to giant rock off out a quarter mile or

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00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:20,080
so is this

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00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,279
this hill

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00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,120
and it's got a steep clip face on the

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00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,120
front and you can see these you know

541
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:27,679
atvs and and doom buggies and stuff

542
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,360
climbing up the hill i was like

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00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,200
that's where we're gonna go

544
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,799
we're gonna sit

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00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,640
on the top of that i'm gonna take the

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00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:37,919
jeep up there

547
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:39,760
and the thought popped in my head and

548
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,440
then i was trying to talk myself out of

549
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,279
it ah

550
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:45,279
it looks pretty dangerous and then i

551
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,720
just kind of mentioned it was like yeah

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00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,799
man let's go let's go let's go and we

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00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,840
did

554
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,440
so

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00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,760
uh we loaded up the jeep and i thought i

556
00:29:04,549 --> 00:28:55,039
was going to ride it by myself

557
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,190
up the side of this cliff

558
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:09,760
and the jeep made it and stuff but you

559
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:11,440
know that stuff it's a little uh you

560
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,799
know that's a white knuckle you know uh

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00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,440
uh driving but we got up to the top

562
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,360
pulled pull the jeep over set up all of

563
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:21,279
the chairs and now we're looking down

564
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:22,640
below and you can see the little

565
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:25,600
campfires giant rock which is ginormous

566
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,399
is this big way down below in the valley

567
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,080
and we're looking at the campfire some

568
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,760
people were lighting off fireworks below

569
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:34,399
so it was really cool but so we set and

570
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:38,080
immediately as the sky starts to darken

571
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up the milky way just lit up i i've

572
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it's there's no light pollution out

573
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there because there's no lights or in

574
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the middle of the desert

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and uh and the milky way and

576
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out of the gate

577
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no night vision naked eye

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00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,919
stuff moving in all directions by the

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way

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and

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we sat there now i am going to do a

582
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guesstimate here

583
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and say that

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between

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eight and ten o'clock a two hour stretch

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between eight and ten

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uh hundreds

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hundreds

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and

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there were things going on that i've

591
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never seen before i was watching

592
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,399
things past each other like this

593
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,640
very unusual to see that saw that three

594
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,640
times actually i saw another one

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overtake

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right there

597
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and he just passed him and then the one

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in back stopped and he kept going

599
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naked eye too by the way

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crazy

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night vision binoculars everything that

602
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:48,320
we had set up everybody was seeing

603
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something

604
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,360
at every minute

605
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of of the hour

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60 minutes in an hour you've got six

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people there

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everybody's seeing something you do the

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00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:01,279
math it was crazy

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and then there were times now look and i

611
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,919
was telling everybody east west you know

612
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you see this orientation you know it's

613
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probably a satellite and things but when

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you see stuff going in another direction

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00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,320
or change directions and

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there were moments

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00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,679
yeah cassandra that's pretty close

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00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:20,399
that's what i did in the jeep i i like

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that

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00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:22,480
thank you

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00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:25,840
there were moments for things in in but

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00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:28,000
they're all

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going in different directions and just

624
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,679
watching them merge it's like here they

625
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it was nuts it was fun

626
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:40,480
it was fun um one pretty low by the way

627
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,720
i love the really low altitude stuff low

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00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,799
and slow and big

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that just came across the sky like i

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00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,960
said naked eye this wasn't

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uh i would say half of the night

632
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,240
uh wasn't aided with night vision didn't

633
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,320
eat it everything was just

634
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,919
uh right there above us it was

635
00:32:02,230 --> 00:31:59,360
incredible

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00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,240
and i asked all of you to come along

637
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:05,039
with us don't forget that but

638
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:05,919
um

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00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:08,799
next time do not miss the trip i can't

640
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,120
wait to go back to giant rock

641
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,559
um and go back to that exact same spot

642
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,559
take the jeep up the side

643
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,200
and and park at the top and and look

644
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,200
down at everybody it was just incredible

645
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,519
perfect night perfect temperature

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perfect group

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and of course i want to thank

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billy carson and elizabeth hoekstra for

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being amazing host and

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and just

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00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,760
you know just two great people but

652
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,159
amazingly fun

653
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,320
and funny it was just it was just a

654
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,799
perfect weekend so there you go and i

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knew what was happening this week on

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fade to black uh after that weekend

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00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,000
there and then turning around and coming

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back and doing this week and hanging out

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with all of you

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life is pretty good around here all

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right so let's take a break my guest

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tonight

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is

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geraldine orozco she's going to be with

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us tonight we're going to be talking

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about making contact

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and what to do with it when and if you

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do

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tomorrow night christina gomez is here

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that's right gomez

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gomez in the house wednesday night

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producer director journalist and writer

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melissa tittle is with us for the first

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time thursday night's another fader

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night with open lines all night long i'm

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your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black i'll be right back

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radio

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welcome back

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payton black i'm your host jimmy church

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what an amazing week uh we've got coming

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up uh you know tonight geraldine orozco

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is with us uh tomorrow night christina

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gomez and wednesday night is melissa

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tiddle and then thursday night is

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long but tonight geraldine is back

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with us we're gonna be talking about

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making contact

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and what you should do with the info if

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you get it but what goes down what do

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you do

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we're going to be talking about all of

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that and much more tonight she's a

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clinical hypnotherapist cht

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epigenetic uh psychotherapist an mt

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a meditation teacher an nlp uh

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neurolinguistics practitioner

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geraldine way

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too many uh

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big words

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for me i got a small mind speaking of

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that mindfulness-based stress reduction

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therapist mbsr key gong teacher and

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owner of the bay area meditation in san

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francisco she offers virtual corporate

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meditation programs internationally

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and she has 15 years of experience in

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the arts of holistic energy healing with

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certifications of advanced uh healing

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quantum energy healing and study for

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several years with a shamanic energy

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healer in 2013

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geraldine experienced a life-changing

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consciousness conscious

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inter-dimensional contact experience

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that resulted in the activation of the

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psychic abilities of the

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multi-dimensional body and the energy

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field she is now dedicated to the

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dissemination of knowledge of

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biophysical architecture hybridization

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programs and the re-examination of the

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common dogma of human genetic timelines

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historical recording and the advanced

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healing of human biological structure

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founder of the

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hybridmother.com and international

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research and support group for

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experiencers and contactees of

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identification phenomena she is on the

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board of directors of opus the

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organization for comprehension and

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support of paranormal sciences

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and she also appears in the 16-time

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award-winning documentary called

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extraordinary the seating she also

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appears on travel channel's ufo witness

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with ben hansen and singer demi lovato's

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new series unidentified her website is

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geraldine orozco.com and i would like to

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welcome back to fade to black my good

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friend the one and only geraldine orozco

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geraldine good evening how are you hi

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i'm fantastic thank you so much for

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having me jimmy it's so much so much

836
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,599
pleasure to be here it's a pleasure to

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00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,000
be here yeah it's it's funny i kind of

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said um at the beginning of the show

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that

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you and i you know we had a chance to

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hang out in sedona and it was great but

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00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:11,920
later on that night um you and i uh we

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00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,960
were uh invited to a house pretty that

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00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,200
house was too small though

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00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,000
it was gorgeous it was huge it's too

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small too small for me i need

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00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,359
my stuff is bigger

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00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:26,640
anyway

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00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,240
there and you and i had a chance uh to

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uh you know get some alone time in and

851
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,760
sit and talk

852
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:37,680
and one of the things that i had said to

853
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,000
you when you agreed to was like we got

854
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,240
to do this every month on fade to black

855
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:44,319
why are we wasting time while we messing

856
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,200
around

857
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:48,560
well hopefully tonight is the kickoff of

858
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,200
uh many many more conversations between

859
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:53,040
the two of us that would be fun thank

860
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:56,000
you absolutely it's great to see you um

861
00:42:02,790 --> 00:41:59,520
it can it can actually start off with um

862
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,800
a weird one not weird no what's weird on

863
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:04,720
fade to black not much

864
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:08,160
but um but but kind of a weird

865
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:09,040
uh

866
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:12,079
thing for me to say to somebody but it's

867
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,880
this

868
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:14,400
you

869
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:19,520
a normal life

870
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,680
right yeah things were fine right

871
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,520
things were just fine everything's cool

872
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,359
you've got a great career professional

873
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:30,000
this everything is is clicking on all

874
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:31,359
cylinders

875
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:32,480
and then

876
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,160
the car goes off the cliff right and um

877
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:38,560
uh things changed for you

878
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,960
uh do you miss

879
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,079
uh

880
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,599
you know the air quotes the normal thing

881
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,599
um you know where

882
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,400
so many people think that that is the

883
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:51,839
key to life

884
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,440
is just

885
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,280
you know being straight

886
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,520
if you know what i mean and then and

887
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,520
things have changed do you miss the the

888
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:01,520
normal world

889
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,640
um

890
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,240
well you know that's an interesting

891
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,040
question i think i think i am living um

892
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,839
what is normal right because um

893
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,400
i think really early on at least in 2008

894
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,960
when i first funded bay area meditation

895
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,359
um i actually

896
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,760
went into meditation looking for these

897
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,280
questions these important questions

898
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,599
about what are we what is the purpose of

899
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,599
our existence and questioning really the

900
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,079
routine because i had just

901
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,480
quit a corporate world and started my

902
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,599
own business and in my soul was dying in

903
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,760
the corporate world because it was just

904
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:37,680
monotony monotony monotony i was not

905
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:40,079
interested in the career i was in and i

906
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,160
was i was dying from the inside you know

907
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,319
so when i quit that job and started my

908
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:45,839
own business i went into the creative

909
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,000
field uh in into event planning and at

910
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,920
the same time started learning about

911
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:54,000
meditation so this is where i started to

912
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:55,839
change my life and i started to ask

913
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,480
questions if i had the education the

914
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,640
career the family everything that i was

915
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,079
supposed to do that checked off all the

916
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,200
boxes of the regular perfect life why

917
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,599
wasn't my life actually perfect you know

918
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:09,680
why wasn't i happy i had everything i

919
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,040
wanted but actually what i had what we

920
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:15,359
think as of normal when we look around

921
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,720
there's actually a lot of

922
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,560
dissatisfaction

923
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,640
a lot of empty feelings and and

924
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,880
loneliness and disconnect actually you

925
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:24,800
know

926
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,680
it's one of my most fascinating uh

927
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,480
thought processes that i go through

928
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:32,800
that and i understand if that's your

929
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,960
bliss and that's your happiness fine go

930
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:37,200
for it right that's cool

931
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,400
but

932
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,319
so many

933
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,680
don't stop and contemplate

934
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,119
the world

935
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,359
right they're stuck in the thing and

936
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:49,119
they're happy oh yeah

937
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:50,400
okay that's cool

938
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:51,119
but

939
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,520
you know what i mean they don't dream

940
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:58,000
they don't think about uh what else is

941
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,200
possible

942
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:01,680
and and i find that

943
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,200
boring

944
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,440
but but you know what i mean

945
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,920
it's just crazy to me

946
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:09,839
that uh

947
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,160
that so many out there could enjoy

948
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:16,720
learning and finding out about things

949
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,520
that that are around them all the time

950
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:21,920
and it's the little things coincidences

951
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,040
and synchronicities and your dreams and

952
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:27,440
and and other just and that's the basic

953
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,800
stuff right but they don't even go there

954
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,480
right well you know the interesting

955
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,480
thing is i mean i'm a lifelong contactee

956
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,040
but i didn't realize that my experiences

957
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,599
that i was was having were actually

958
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,280
uh

959
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,599
you know connected with et contact i was

960
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:45,359
i didn't understand that yet i didn't

961
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:47,599
make the connection and it wasn't until

962
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,240
i started to meditate really for hours

963
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,800
at a time and eventually i was i took

964
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,440
time off in 2013 to meditate maybe up to

965
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,000
nine ten hours a day for about three

966
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,240
four months that i began to really

967
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,560
question not only like my personality

968
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,880
myself you know why why did i end up

969
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,000
being who i was i began to deprogram

970
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,000
some programs that were handed down to

971
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,560
mother and father's side you know and so

972
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,480
kind of unpacking all of that really

973
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,880
made me realize that i hadn't even known

974
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,280
what questions to ask i didn't even know

975
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,359
i had permission to ask about whether my

976
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,640
life was

977
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,640
uh making me happy you know was it okay

978
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,319
to follow along with the nine to five

979
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:28,079
job to the career follow along who

980
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,400
created these structures you know do we

981
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,079
really agree with these structures so

982
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,839
that's kind of where those kind of

983
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,520
started to fall apart and what i

984
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,920
discovered was that you know major

985
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:39,599
programming that we take on through

986
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,000
culture religion society politics

987
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,160
everything kind of plays a role in in

988
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:45,920
the way that we see ourselves in the

989
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:46,800
world

990
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:50,480
and really we end up being like masks we

991
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:52,720
end up wearing just masks and really the

992
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,280
true self isn't really even expressed we

993
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,880
don't even know we don't discover that

994
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:59,760
true self until we do that internal work

995
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,800
um

996
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,640
so i think it was at that point when i

997
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:04,880
finally realized that you know i i came

998
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:07,520
to a moment of neutrality where all of

999
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,079
these mass started to fall off and i

1000
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,839
began to question well what's what's

1001
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,760
beyond this what's beyond social

1002
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,160
structures what's beyond uh you know

1003
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,319
education and religion and culture how

1004
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:20,800
did we our society end up to where it is

1005
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,720
today and it became very painfully

1006
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,599
vivid and and real that the amount of

1007
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,839
suffering that we experience on earth

1008
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:31,599
why are we choosing to live these kinds

1009
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,630
i have such a dissatisf time asking

1010
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,240
these very hard questions about for

1011
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:42,720
example what is love what does it mean

1012
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,680
to exist so um in 2013 uh as a result of

1013
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,480
this kind of meditation um

1014
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,720
and i experi and coming into this kind

1015
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,040
of neutral state is where i experience

1016
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:57,920
this conscious contact experience where

1017
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,800
um a friday night in october a

1018
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:02,720
brilliant bright light comes into my

1019
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,880
room and begins to um light up every

1020
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:08,800
single wall of the room to the point

1021
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,800
where you know i couldn't i couldn't um

1022
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,400
stay in bed anymore i wanted to go see

1023
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:14,480
what it was so i get out of bed and i go

1024
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,560
to the window and i look outside and the

1025
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:18,960
light is so bright that my entire body

1026
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,520
paralyzes and i'm taken out of the room

1027
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,119
on top of the garage

1028
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,040
and i am faced in front of this

1029
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:26,800
incredibly white light that takes up the

1030
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:29,359
entire block and from the white light

1031
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:32,640
these beings come out and right in that

1032
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:35,839
moment these tall grays uh gray-like

1033
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,079
beings about seven foot tall

1034
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,480
this is the moment that my paradigm kind

1035
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,440
of shattered you know just a little

1036
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:44,800
yeah

1037
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:47,119
because i had already been going through

1038
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,040
micro micro existential crises after my

1039
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,200
own meditation work but this is like

1040
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:55,359
this really took it to the next level

1041
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,559
and um i i began to remember these

1042
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,119
experiences as a child and and you know

1043
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,200
i i went into the craft with these

1044
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:05,359
beings uh they spoke to me

1045
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:08,880
telepathically and the craft is almost

1046
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:12,240
like this conscious uh very responsive

1047
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,000
craft that that

1048
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,400
kind of responds to every step you take

1049
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,800
and it's also very holographic and they

1050
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,119
would create these holograms inside the

1051
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,960
craft as i walk inside i can see the

1052
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,640
curvature of the crab going to the right

1053
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,640
and to the left so we go to the left and

1054
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,880
as we're curving down they create this

1055
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,640
hologram where everything begins to

1056
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,000
shift in color

1057
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:34,240
and it looks like a a green grass and a

1058
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,760
blue sky

1059
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,920
and i'm being brought into this obtuse

1060
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,920
building where

1061
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:41,760
you know clearly it's a hologram they're

1062
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:44,880
covering the actual uh structure of the

1063
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,200
craft but as i turn around i'm seeing

1064
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:49,040
these two greys walk in front of me with

1065
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,000
my on in her nightgown unconscious and

1066
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,839
just gliding in front of me and when i

1067
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:55,839
try to call out her name

1068
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:59,359
you know they immediately remove this

1069
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,079
imagery this hologram from around me and

1070
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:04,880
they show me three grays that begin to

1071
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,440
present to me these uh this prism

1072
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,599
and this prism has eight layers to it

1073
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:11,200
every single one of those layers had

1074
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,599
some information for me so this is where

1075
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:15,599
i began to download all kinds of

1076
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,160
information about first they showed me

1077
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,480
alien language and the alien language

1078
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,240
the more i would try to

1079
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:24,079
focus on it and try to understand what

1080
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,359
it was saying

1081
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,960
the the least i would be able to

1082
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,400
understand but the moment i would just

1083
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,960
kind of relax and see the letters these

1084
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,960
symbols that were very much a mixture of

1085
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,559
mathematic and

1086
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:35,920
uh strange

1087
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,359
geometric type symbol symbols um i began

1088
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,359
to have these telepathic images come

1089
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,599
into my mind and i realized that the way

1090
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,119
that they were communicating to me was

1091
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,319
very um universal it's like they speak

1092
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,800
in universes and that was another moment

1093
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:52,960
of where your reality also begins to

1094
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:55,599
shatter you know when i can i jump in

1095
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,240
yeah so what you're suggesting is

1096
00:51:01,589 --> 00:51:00,000
no matter who you are

1097
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,599
just like on planet earth right no

1098
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:03,280
matter what language you're speaking or

1099
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,880
another planet

1100
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,200
you are going to understand what is

1101
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:08,960
being presented here that's what you

1102
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,190
well yes in a way also but there's

1103
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,720
there's this this is how it was it was

1104
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:19,920
myself

1105
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,160
this everyone that was there with me in

1106
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,200
that spay in that room and that craft uh

1107
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,319
the city the the country the world the

1108
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:30,240
galaxy and then the universe that you're

1109
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,000
in this is how thought forms were

1110
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:34,880
created it's almost as it included

1111
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,680
everything around it in that way every

1112
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,680
dot meant something it changed the

1113
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,920
meaning of it so i mean it's a

1114
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:43,839
completely expansive way of

1115
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:46,000
communicating that you you know we don't

1116
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:48,160
communicate like that we barely get you

1117
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,760
know some communication across about

1118
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,440
what we're experiencing or we can't even

1119
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,839
express how we're feeling sometimes um

1120
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,599
but this communication is just so

1121
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:57,520
complex and

1122
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:00,319
uh very connected to many aspects of

1123
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:02,559
your experience you know just getting

1124
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:06,400
done did you did you have a a problem

1125
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:08,079
understanding or

1126
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:10,240
or did you absorb it

1127
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,280
yeah so i think at that moment um the

1128
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,200
images that started to come into my mind

1129
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,520
were images that were super complex so

1130
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,960
for example

1131
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,119
uh i remember seeing the earth i

1132
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:23,119
remember seeing myself in the earth i

1133
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,160
remember

1134
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,319
seeing the roles that souls would play

1135
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,720
on earth

1136
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,240
and then they would they would show me

1137
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,720
other planets simultaneously in my mind

1138
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,240
just and i'm watching i'm watching these

1139
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,319
symbols and these are the pictures it

1140
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:39,440
very complex things moving very quickly

1141
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:40,960
and then i would and then they would

1142
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,960
show me some kind of numerical sequence

1143
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,200
that would have to do with the time and

1144
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,040
space that they were that this event was

1145
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,640
located and the role that i would be

1146
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,160
playing the role that other people would

1147
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:53,200
be playing how work interconnected um i

1148
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,160
guess the next step in in this event and

1149
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,640
how it would affect other people this is

1150
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:00,640
this is like one thought would include

1151
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,760
all of this

1152
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:03,440
you know so it was

1153
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:05,599
i guess it was like a major download of

1154
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:08,319
information and at that moment i didn't

1155
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:10,319
quite understand what i was

1156
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,920
being shown until many years later and i

1157
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:15,760
can share with you about that in just a

1158
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,359
moment but it was it was very amazing to

1159
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:21,760
have you know your mind just expanded in

1160
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,920
that way because we don't communicate

1161
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,160
like that when

1162
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,960
i saw your presentation i mean we've

1163
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,960
done things uh over the years but that

1164
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,640
was one of the first times

1165
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,119
when i was able to and i don't get a

1166
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,160
chance to do this too often with anybody

1167
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,200
um to sit for two or three hours

1168
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,920
and and listen to your entire

1169
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:46,559
presentation from beginning to end

1170
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,760
and uh

1171
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:49,440
and so

1172
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:52,000
what my comment to that is

1173
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,119
um

1174
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:55,200
the information

1175
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:56,880
and the way that you present it is very

1176
00:54:01,670 --> 00:54:00,720
fluid but it's stuff that

1177
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,680
um

1178
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:03,920
i've never heard before

1179
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:07,280
and it is complex and you do have to in

1180
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,800
your presentation

1181
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,480
because of the

1182
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,040
the type of information that it is

1183
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:15,119
you've got to be able to explain this to

1184
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,000
everybody uh and have them absorb and i

1185
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,319
felt like i did and i remember you

1186
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:22,800
walked out the stage and the two of us

1187
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,520
we walked outside and he said

1188
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:28,000
what i said that was amazing and that

1189
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:30,079
that that was pretty cool but here's the

1190
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:31,280
thing

1191
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,240
um

1192
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,880
i turned to you and and said everybody

1193
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,000
there

1194
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:37,520
was focused

1195
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:40,160
right for two two and a half hours and

1196
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,119
and

1197
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,040
uh taking in

1198
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:46,000
uh what you were presenting to them do

1199
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:48,559
you feel that from the podium

1200
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,240
do you feel the brain power from

1201
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:53,040
everybody just absolutely

1202
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,720
right nobody is is is

1203
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,559
you know what i mean losing focus they

1204
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,400
are completely

1205
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:01,680
into

1206
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:04,400
uh what you are presenting

1207
00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:07,119
yes i i do notice that i know sometimes

1208
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:08,800
these concepts can be very heavy i know

1209
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:12,160
my presentations can be heavy sometimes

1210
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:13,119
but

1211
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,720
yes

1212
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,040
but you know the thing is that i think

1213
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,200
the way that this information is kind of

1214
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,160
delivered is not just visually but i

1215
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,559
also feel that it's energetic and i do

1216
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:27,119
get that feedback too that some people

1217
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:28,720
uh you know they can receive the

1218
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,800
information also my videos on my youtube

1219
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:32,640
channel i talk about these topics i try

1220
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,200
to go very in depth into these topics

1221
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,440
and i think i think it's time for us to

1222
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,280
to kind of shift our perspective in the

1223
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:41,520
way that we see and and experience

1224
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,000
things in a broader way that is a little

1225
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,920
bit more inclusive of many different

1226
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,280
aspects that are important to

1227
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,200
understanding who we are as humans

1228
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,520
because we are very multi-dimensional

1229
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,920
but up until now the way that we see

1230
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:55,440
things the way things are presented to

1231
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:57,520
us it's very one-dimensional and we

1232
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,240
forget ourselves in that process so i

1233
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,559
think the reason why i do presentations

1234
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:04,640
like this is hopefully for people to

1235
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,040
remember themselves and to experience

1236
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:09,920
what they're receiving and to be able to

1237
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:11,839
find themselves in that information

1238
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,599
because the information is

1239
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,400
combining both organic a little bit of

1240
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,559
science a little bit of physics and also

1241
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,319
spiritual right and i think that's

1242
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,040
really the most important thing uh that

1243
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:25,200
we understand that we are we are energy

1244
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:28,720
we are life force and that communication

1245
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:29,599
um

1246
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,000
it it's not just through verbal

1247
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,319
communication it is a mult multiple

1248
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,160
senses that are being involved in that

1249
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,400
in that kind of communication

1250
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:40,400
so i'm hoping that's how people are

1251
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,000
receiving it

1252
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:44,720
because one of the reasons why it's so

1253
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:47,119
well received is you do have a lot of

1254
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,160
illustrations you've got a lot of math

1255
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:52,720
you've got a lot of uh supporting

1256
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,839
multimedia to go through all of this but

1257
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,880
you're right

1258
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,960
um it's heavy

1259
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,200
but i think that everybody realizes very

1260
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:03,839
quickly okay this is this is

1261
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,240
this is special i need to stay focused

1262
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,160
and then they can go back and watch it

1263
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:10,160
again and watch it again you know do

1264
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:13,920
what you're going to do in real time but

1265
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:16,720
go back and and and absorb it again and

1266
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:19,520
again um i want to go back to your uh

1267
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:20,720
point

1268
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:22,000
um

1269
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:23,200
when

1270
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,559
this happened

1271
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:26,960
in uh you know with the with the three

1272
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:28,160
tall grays

1273
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,240
um your previous contact experiences

1274
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,079
uh over your lifetime

1275
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:36,160
same same group

1276
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,200
right

1277
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,079
great question yeah uh no many many

1278
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,559
different kinds of groups actually um

1279
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,040
and uh that this is very interesting

1280
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:47,040
because it plays a very key role in

1281
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:49,760
understanding the hybridization program

1282
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,319
um i'm a part of four hybridization

1283
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:54,880
programs one hybridization is a draco

1284
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,079
reptilian

1285
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,160
uh the second one is a pleiadian group

1286
00:58:02,390 --> 00:57:59,839
which is this group that presented the

1287
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,400
children to me in this experience

1288
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:04,240
another one is a reptilian group and the

1289
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,599
other is is a terrestrial group so

1290
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:10,319
involving military aspects

1291
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,880
and so at different stages of my life

1292
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:14,319
since i was a child since the age of

1293
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,440
five i had experiences with missing time

1294
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,760
and mostly in those missing time

1295
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:21,839
experiences were connected to draco

1296
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:23,200
reptilian

1297
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,640
kind of experiences as well as military

1298
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:29,200
more recently military were involved

1299
00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:31,599
over the past probably about six six

1300
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:33,359
years now

1301
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:34,160
but

1302
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:35,920
the way i understand the hybridization

1303
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,720
program is not just about hybrids it's

1304
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,119
also about cloning cloning programs that

1305
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:43,599
are being taken place and

1306
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:45,760
my initial question after this contact

1307
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:47,599
was you know are these groups connected

1308
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,960
you know they seem to have the same

1309
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:51,040
interest in genetics in the human

1310
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:52,880
genetics you know what makes a human so

1311
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,000
special why was i uh special or chosen

1312
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:59,200
for these these kinds of experiences

1313
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:01,359
so at different stages from the age of

1314
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,760
five the age of seven the age of eight

1315
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,000
the age of uh 16

1316
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,079
then it was i think um

1317
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:10,160
22 24

1318
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:13,200
34 those were the main

1319
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:14,319
memories

1320
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:15,200
where

1321
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:17,520
they were vivid experiences that were

1322
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,400
both combined with physical side effects

1323
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:23,040
so for example i would have missing time

1324
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:27,119
marks on my body uh missing time uh

1325
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:28,799
i became sick for a week with some

1326
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,880
anomalous illness that the doctor could

1327
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,640
not identify

1328
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:34,559
i also became pregnant without being

1329
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:37,119
partnered being virgin

1330
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,440
at the age of 16 when i was in south

1331
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:41,599
america and at the age of 18 when i was

1332
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,400
here in in the us again

1333
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,280
and these both these times after having

1334
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,480
these vivid missing time experiences uh

1335
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,799
let me just for context i was walking

1336
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:54,960
home from school one night

1337
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:56,799
and as i'm walking on the cobblestone

1338
01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:59,119
floor the floor goes black all of a

1339
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,000
sudden and i'm brought into this room

1340
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:04,000
i just find myself walking into this

1341
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:06,720
dark space there are these incredible

1342
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:08,720
beings on the side of me that are very

1343
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,119
reptilian type beings and there is this

1344
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,599
metallic chair very modern and

1345
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:15,599
minimalistic type chair where i made to

1346
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:16,640
sit down

1347
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,839
and in that experience there is an

1348
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:21,520
insemination that is mechanical

1349
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,040
and i'm feeling the sensations of this

1350
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:27,359
insemination occurring but then i black

1351
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:30,559
out and i find myself in bed at like

1352
01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:33,119
three in the morning and i wake up at

1353
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:34,880
the age of 16 and for the first time in

1354
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,400
my entire life feeling the feeling of

1355
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,960
being aroused and i'm very confused i

1356
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:40,640
never felt that feeling before i wasn't

1357
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:42,880
sure what was occurring and then i go

1358
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,280
back to sleep and then i was sick for

1359
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:47,440
about a week after that and my uncle who

1360
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,359
was a doctor thinks that i have maybe a

1361
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:51,040
stomach blue

1362
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:52,400
of course it didn't occur to them that i

1363
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:54,640
was pregnant because you know i was a

1364
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:57,680
virgin and come from a very um a

1365
01:01:02,950 --> 01:00:59,280
catholic background so very very

1366
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:02,960
conservative you know and so

1367
01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:05,119
and as a result of this i had a

1368
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:07,599
miscarriage experience but the fetus was

1369
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,799
missing

1370
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:10,160
i didn't know what's happening but when

1371
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:11,760
i went to the doctor they did some

1372
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:14,400
x-rays and found out that i had these

1373
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:17,599
strange formations inside of the uterus

1374
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:19,040
and the doctor said

1375
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:20,559
you know have you been pregnant have you

1376
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:22,799
had kids before you know these kind of

1377
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:25,040
markings are markings that would occur

1378
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:26,960
for someone that already had you know

1379
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,359
several children right you know so

1380
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,680
that's when things started to kind of uh

1381
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:33,920
not make sense but you still don't

1382
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:35,280
really combine you don't make the

1383
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:37,599
connection with et contact yet right let

1384
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:39,839
me let me jump in here uh we've got

1385
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:42,160
about 90 seconds and we can pick up

1386
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:43,359
after the break

1387
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:44,880
but um

1388
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,720
certainly

1389
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,640
you've got to have a conversation with

1390
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:50,960
your parents about this too as well and

1391
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:53,760
you got to go dad i'm telling you

1392
01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:56,640
right and and and he's saying well the

1393
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,720
doctor says and your mom

1394
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:01,200
this is now uh something that you have

1395
01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:04,000
to deal with i can only imagine the

1396
01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:05,839
drama in the family how did you deal

1397
01:02:09,030 --> 01:02:07,200
with that

1398
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:09,040
well you know during that first

1399
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,280
experience nobody really thought that i

1400
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,599
would be pregnant because i mean i i we

1401
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:15,599
very very innocent i mean you know we i

1402
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didn't even go out it was just at school

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01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:20,240
and then home so that it didn't even

1404
01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:22,000
bring up that thought

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01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:24,319
but when i had that side effect and when

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01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,400
the doctor said that you know they just

1407
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:28,079
thought maybe it's something that's

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hereditary maybe it just passed down the

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01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,920
family you know right

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01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:34,079
at the later time at the age of 18

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01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:35,680
that's that's when things started to get

1412
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:37,520
interesting because i i became pregnant

1413
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,440
couple times without being partnered

1414
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:41,760
after this and every time that it would

1415
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:44,000
happen um you know i was at the age of

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01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:45,839
18 i was still young still with my

1417
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:47,040
parents

1418
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,480
and still having these side effects

1419
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,920
there was a lot of confusion a lot of

1420
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,480
stress a lot of anxiety uh not sure what

1421
01:02:55,030 --> 01:02:54,240
to what to say what to talk what to

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01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:55,040
share

1423
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:57,599
you know so it was very stressing

1424
01:03:01,990 --> 01:02:59,520
later on at the age of 24 became

1425
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:02,000
pregnant again wasn't partnered but this

1426
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:04,079
time you know it was like this very

1427
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:06,000
strange confusion like what's happening

1428
01:03:09,030 --> 01:03:07,359
to you the doctor said you know do you

1429
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,040
want to have a child you must really

1430
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:10,880
really want children you know because

1431
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:12,400
when you want children sometimes you

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01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,720
create that hormone in the body

1433
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,720
but this was literally becoming pregnant

1434
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:19,039
for maybe up to three months and then

1435
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,760
having a miscarriage without the fetus

1436
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,520
and you know the the doctor the

1437
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,680
gynecologist can say it's blighted ovum

1438
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:27,599
or something like that happened but the

1439
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:29,440
interesting thing is that these are not

1440
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:31,680
just this kind of miscarriage can happen

1441
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:33,520
to anyone you know it's not it's not so

1442
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,760
rare but what is interesting is that

1443
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:37,440
it's combined with these contact

1444
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:39,920
experiences so i had very vivid dreams

1445
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:43,599
about being on a slab of a metallic slab

1446
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:46,000
being uh surrounded by these lights and

1447
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,400
these beings around me and then

1448
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:50,880
immediately the next day having marks on

1449
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:52,640
the body exactly in the places where i

1450
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,559
had the dreams and and where they were

1451
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:56,400
you know

1452
01:04:02,710 --> 01:03:59,680
touching and and being close to my body

1453
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:02,720
so um for me i still didn't think that

1454
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,400
there was a connection i wasn't sure i

1455
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:07,039
didn't understand how the non-physical

1456
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:09,200
dream state could manifest into the

1457
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:12,799
physical in this way you know so

1458
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:14,640
hold on we've got to take a break we've

1459
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:16,000
got to take a break

1460
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,760
yeah let's do that right here this is

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01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:19,599
fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

1462
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,920
tonight our guest is geraldine orozco

1463
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:24,000
we're talking about making contact uh

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01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:27,200
tonight and if it happens what do you do

1465
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:28,400
with it

1466
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:30,240
we're gonna discuss all of that and much

1467
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,760
more with geraldine after this short

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break stay with us

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01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:42,159
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:43,839
host jimmy church tonight geraldine

1576
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:47,120
orozco is with us back with us

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01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,759
it's been too long geraldine it has been

1578
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:51,199
way too long

1579
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,920
and uh you know um i was thinking uh

1580
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:55,679
during the break

1581
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:57,920
i was like how do we meet right it was

1582
01:10:02,950 --> 01:09:59,920
so long ago i think it was alba i think

1583
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:02,960
it was alba wyman introduced us right

1584
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:06,320
am i am am i right in saying that um

1585
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,320
somewhere around that time but you and i

1586
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,400
met in person when we were in i think

1587
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,000
pasadena

1588
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:14,320
when we went to that art gallery

1589
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,800
remember yeah i think that was the first

1590
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:19,280
time we met actually in person yeah yeah

1591
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:21,679
yeah yeah again that was a long time ago

1592
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:24,880
um yeah that was a while ago so but yeah

1593
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:27,040
you may have met me through alba yeah

1594
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:30,000
yeah i met you through alba

1595
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:33,360
going back to where we left off and

1596
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,040
we've got uh

1597
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:37,360
so many things to touch upon but i want

1598
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,120
to go back

1599
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:41,280
for this um i like the way you say

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pregnancy without a partner right that's

1601
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:45,040
that's a good way to put it

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01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:45,920
um

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01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:47,360
you go through this

1604
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:48,800
a few times and you have these

1605
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:51,520
miscarriages without a fetus

1606
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:55,199
and you had said that um it's it's not

1607
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:57,199
that uncommon right for women to go

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01:11:02,790 --> 01:10:58,480
through this

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01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:02,800
if a woman does go through with this

1610
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,360
um would you suggest that

1611
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:07,679
maybe they think about the past or any

1612
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,400
strange events in the past that

1613
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:12,080
that they may have just naturally

1614
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,320
dismissed and and not thought much about

1615
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,239
and that there may be some kind of

1616
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:17,679
connection

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01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:21,199
you know um it's it's

1618
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,800
you know we can always try to connect

1619
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:24,400
things in our world i think that it's

1620
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,360
very important to understand that there

1621
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:28,640
is

1622
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:32,640
understand the spiritual connection

1623
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:34,400
behind all of these kinds of things

1624
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,360
because

1625
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:37,360
uh they can get very complex very

1626
01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:40,000
quickly not all miscarriages obviously

1627
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:42,960
are going to be connected to this um

1628
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:46,000
to this agenda in a way but i also want

1629
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:47,280
to say

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that

1631
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,640
after a lot of research and looking at

1632
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:52,640
these and also many cases of women from

1633
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:54,080
around the world that are experiencing

1634
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:56,000
the hybridization program

1635
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:58,080
the kind of parallels not just in the

1636
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,080
kind of relationships and partnerships

1637
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:04,630
play a role

1638
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:06,640
in this because the hybridization

1639
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,159
program is not just about creating these

1640
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,560
concepts of alien babies okay hybrid

1641
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,760
babies

1642
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,400
we are actually hybrids in fact we are a

1643
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,880
product of hybridization ourselves since

1644
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,560
the origin of life sitting on this

1645
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:22,800
planet and so this is something that we

1646
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:24,480
go really deep into the topic and

1647
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,679
understanding

1648
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,000
and even even us

1649
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,080
from the origin of time from the first

1650
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:31,679
genetic code

1651
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:35,360
there has been um genetic mutations in

1652
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:38,080
blood types blood blood lines and

1653
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:39,760
certain bloodlines that have been

1654
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:42,320
preserved in historically

1655
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:44,719
all of this is part of a kind of genetic

1656
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:47,199
modification of the human race

1657
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:50,640
and we currently exist in a kind of

1658
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,440
genetic modification still even now

1659
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:56,080
through eugenics programs that have been

1660
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:58,400
present for a very long time

1661
01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,840
so this goes a little bit into the

1662
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,400
deeper sides of the hybridization

1663
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:04,640
program it's not just that it's

1664
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,880
occurring interdimensionally it's

1665
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,280
actually also happening in the physical

1666
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:11,760
and we can go into that but every single

1667
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:14,480
family lineage the people that we date

1668
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:16,480
the people that we unite within and

1669
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:19,840
marry and have families with in a way

1670
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,640
these unions are not just created

1671
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:23,840
randomly

1672
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:26,960
we are somewhat united by vibrational

1673
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:29,920
frequency at a very high level and in

1674
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:32,159
that agreement there are agreements that

1675
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:34,080
are made in order to participate in some

1676
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:36,400
of these hybridization programs

1677
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:37,280
and

1678
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:39,440
we begin to see these patterns because

1679
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:40,800
what we discover is that the

1680
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:43,760
hybridization program actually goes down

1681
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,400
ancestrally so for example in my family

1682
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:50,320
let's see every single one of the women

1683
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:52,719
in my family have had contact and had

1684
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:55,120
these kinds of experiences and it wasn't

1685
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,360
until i came public that we started to

1686
01:14:01,990 --> 01:13:59,840
talk about them and my clients that i

1687
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:02,000
work with for the past six years i keep

1688
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,840
hearing this over and over again so um

1689
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:07,360
there have also been other separate

1690
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:09,840
studies outside of my work

1691
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,159
that have also talked about this

1692
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:14,480
so thanksgiving dinner right you guys

1693
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:18,640
are sitting around so what's new well

1694
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,360
is it like that are you guys that open

1695
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:24,000
uh yes and no i mean i think that when

1696
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:26,800
the documentaries came out um

1697
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,400
you know it was inevitable you know you

1698
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:30,880
can't really hide that anymore but uh i

1699
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:33,120
will say after my contact experience in

1700
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:37,600
2013 up until 2017 uh you know i never

1701
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:39,920
shared this with anyone except my two

1702
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:42,640
parents uh my partner at the time and

1703
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:45,520
then a person from mufon which was my

1704
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:47,440
first contact into this whole world you

1705
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:48,480
know

1706
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:51,600
so that's where things inevitably became

1707
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:53,840
very quickly public you know not even

1708
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:56,400
giving me yet time to process yet so i i

1709
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:57,920
went very quickly through the learning

1710
01:15:01,750 --> 01:15:00,719
curve of how to handle all of this

1711
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:01,760
and

1712
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:03,920
also researching you know through my

1713
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,560
personal experiences what was happening

1714
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,560
i think if i didn't have the spiritual

1715
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,719
foundation that i had i think it would

1716
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,080
have been very overwhelming and

1717
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:14,400
difficult for me to handle not just my

1718
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,560
own experiences but other

1719
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,320
other people in my family sharing their

1720
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:20,880
experiences but i think at that point i

1721
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:23,440
get i came to a point of understanding

1722
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:25,040
through alba wyman with her

1723
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,440
hypnotherapies that i i did with her

1724
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:29,280
really helped me understand what was

1725
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:32,000
happening you know in a profound way

1726
01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:34,320
can i ask you something um i i don't

1727
01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:35,520
want to say

1728
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:36,840
when or where

1729
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:39,679
um because that just wouldn't be cool

1730
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:42,080
but at the art gallery when you and i

1731
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:43,679
were hanging out

1732
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:47,440
in that art gallery was a model

1733
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:48,880
of

1734
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,280
whitley strieber's communion

1735
01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:53,440
okay and and and that's sitting there

1736
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:55,120
along with the cover

1737
01:15:58,630 --> 01:15:57,679
uh from communion and sitting there

1738
01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:58,640
um

1739
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:01,840
when when you see stuff like that

1740
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:04,480
uh does it does it have an effect on you

1741
01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:07,600
it used to yes it used to at first very

1742
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:11,360
much so very powerful uh effect um

1743
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:16,070
i think after my first hypnotherapy is

1744
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:18,880
when i was first very very sensitive to

1745
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:21,920
seeing things like pictures of grays

1746
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,760
you know and i i really wanted to stay

1747
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:25,280
away from

1748
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:26,880
some people some contact these you know

1749
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:28,400
they they they fall in love with the

1750
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:30,880
whole idea of these gray images and they

1751
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:32,719
use it a lot you know they they promote

1752
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,280
that but also we have to understand that

1753
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,040
there's been a lot of influence of

1754
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:39,120
social engineering as well not just from

1755
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,320
the cia but also historically about et

1756
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,159
contact and i really want to stay away

1757
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:46,400
from that um because

1758
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:48,960
people that are you know contactees i i

1759
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:50,960
was never interested in sci-fi before i

1760
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:52,800
got into this you know before i actually

1761
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:55,120
saw these beings so for me it was very

1762
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:57,679
paradigm shifting what i was seeing what

1763
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:01,280
i was experiencing um and i believe that

1764
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:03,520
the more that we stay away from

1765
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:05,760
entertainment industry we'll be able to

1766
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,400
create a nice clear picture of what

1767
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:10,880
these beings actually are representing

1768
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:14,159
to us you know it's they're very um

1769
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:16,480
there's many different species that we

1770
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:19,199
seem to have experiences with

1771
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:21,840
from pleiadian humanoids to arcturians

1772
01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:24,400
to reptilians to lyrans

1773
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:26,080
they represent something and the way

1774
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:28,560
that i see them is more of a range of

1775
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:31,040
vibrational frequency it's not easy to

1776
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,199
just compartmentalize the species and

1777
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,280
say these are these and these are that

1778
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,440
because within them there are many

1779
01:17:42,310 --> 01:17:39,679
mixtures they are also hybrids and in

1780
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,320
fact we ourselves are a cocktail of of

1781
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,880
these high of these uh different species

1782
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:46,719
these different lineages

1783
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:48,880
um in fact if we go all the way back to

1784
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,360
the very origin of time how the human

1785
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,280
race came to be if we look at the book

1786
01:17:57,830 --> 01:17:55,440
of enoch for example that talks about

1787
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,840
how sophia breeds life into yelled about

1788
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:00,000
yell the both creates the archons and

1789
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:02,400
the fallen angels and these annunaki's

1790
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,920
and um from there that union of these

1791
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:07,920
beings with the human

1792
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:10,640
gene with the human genetic code is

1793
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:12,880
where we began to create uh these

1794
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:14,239
lineages

1795
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:15,040
so

1796
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,400
um and from there many different species

1797
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:20,880
were descending as well okay so we are

1798
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:23,120
we are a cocktail of these genetic

1799
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:25,040
lineages and what i have discovered is

1800
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,440
that in fact most of our contact

1801
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:29,679
experience that we have that we recall

1802
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,480
is an expression of the genetic

1803
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,800
lineages that we are made up of so if

1804
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:36,880
you're having contact with lyrans with

1805
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:39,199
grays with reptilians chances are that

1806
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:41,760
you have that within your dna

1807
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:44,880
i've always found it interesting um when

1808
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:47,280
i hear and read

1809
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:48,239
um

1810
01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:50,719
accounts such as yours and then when we

1811
01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:53,360
speak about you know the deep past

1812
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:56,000
um that that's our community talking and

1813
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:57,679
it's great and it's interesting then you

1814
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:58,960
go to

1815
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:01,199
what is taught in school

1816
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:03,600
right it's the exact same thing

1817
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:06,400
so they literally say well you know 200

1818
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:10,400
000 years ago uh homo sapiens sapien uh

1819
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:13,360
the the dna was altered and we went from

1820
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,400
48 chromosome pairs to 46 and it doesn't

1821
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:19,120
make any sense to have that altering

1822
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:22,880
um in our dna but then we changed in

1823
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:25,679
complexion we lost our body hair our

1824
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:28,000
forehead became flat we're beautiful

1825
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:30,719
right we we don't make any sense uh

1826
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:32,239
compared to everything else on planet

1827
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:35,440
earth but we just appear 200 000 years

1828
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:37,120
ago well

1829
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:39,679
that's exactly what the sumerian tablets

1830
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:41,920
say

1831
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,120
exactly

1832
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:45,520
and many many tablets i mean we have the

1833
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,400
the emerald tablets we have the uh the

1834
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:50,640
story of gilgamesh many of these ancient

1835
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:53,840
scriptures um around the world are

1836
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:56,159
depicting these storylines

1837
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:58,000
yeah it's it's fascinating to me

1838
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:01,840
fascinating so okay

1839
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:04,480
it's not just women though

1840
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,520
right exactly it's not just women

1841
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,360
and and i know that there's some men out

1842
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:11,280
there going well i'd volunteer for an

1843
01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:13,840
alien hybrid program you know sign me up

1844
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:15,520
well

1845
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:19,280
it's it's just not um a feminine a

1846
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:21,760
female uh situation here when we're

1847
01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:24,159
talking about hybrid programs

1848
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:26,560
um and

1849
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:27,679
when

1850
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:32,960
is it the same sequence of events and

1851
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:35,920
what is the intention in the end

1852
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,080
okay so uh the sequence of events for

1853
01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:40,239
women let me first point that out is uh

1854
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:43,040
usually uh implantation between the

1855
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:45,679
first seven years of life from the womb

1856
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:48,400
until seven years uh the the person will

1857
01:20:52,630 --> 01:20:50,560
experience some kind of experiences

1858
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:52,640
where they are being implanted with

1859
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,239
either

1860
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:56,480
what we call implants it's a combination

1861
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:59,120
of their dna this bio organic

1862
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:02,000
multi-dimensional kind of

1863
01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:04,400
attachment in the body okay there are

1864
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:06,640
implants sometimes people actually see

1865
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:08,800
metallic implants in their body but

1866
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:11,199
they're more etheric rather than just

1867
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:12,400
material

1868
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:13,199
so

1869
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:15,840
the next phase would be insemination

1870
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:18,159
usually these these implants will let

1871
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:21,120
them know when the body is ready for

1872
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:24,400
insemination for women and so when they

1873
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:26,000
have the experience of insemination it

1874
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:28,719
can either be mechanical organic which

1875
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:31,520
means that it's with another human or

1876
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:33,440
another being

1877
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,320
and it's a very physical union

1878
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,480
they will literally experience a kind of

1879
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,719
physical union also

1880
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:42,480
the experience can be

1881
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:44,719
etheric very etheric

1882
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,080
in nature

1883
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:48,480
the third is military

1884
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:49,679
which is

1885
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,400
more of a cloning program that takes

1886
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,719
data dna data from the physical body and

1887
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:57,360
utilizes that for the cloning so

1888
01:22:02,149 --> 01:21:59,840
the next stage would be the gestation

1889
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:02,159
process and for the female it's usually

1890
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,800
about three months it doesn't usually go

1891
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,560
longer than that when it's an etheric

1892
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:08,719
program or interdimensional program and

1893
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:09,679
this is when they're going to have the

1894
01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:12,239
miscarriage without the fetus but there

1895
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:14,880
are also of course as we know uh the

1896
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:17,199
other hybridization which is terrestrial

1897
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,199
where the humans are born right and it's

1898
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:21,040
our children children that are born

1899
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,280
children that are born with memories of

1900
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:25,040
their past lives

1901
01:22:29,350 --> 01:22:26,800
you know these very high high

1902
01:22:32,229 --> 01:22:29,360
understanding of physics of of

1903
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:32,239
interdimensional awareness they remember

1904
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:34,239
their star families

1905
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:36,000
at the age of five or six are talking

1906
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:37,120
about that

1907
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:39,600
as well as advanced physics and sciences

1908
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:42,239
and mary rodwell uh studies this if

1909
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,120
you're interested in looking into that

1910
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:48,159
the next phase would be a presentation

1911
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:49,840
and this usually happens a little later

1912
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:52,400
on when the child is grown uh there's a

1913
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,800
presentation experience where the child

1914
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,880
is shown to the mother or the father

1915
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:57,920
okay so

1916
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,400
and you did this that's right so every

1917
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:02,719
single one of these face stages i

1918
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,960
experienced and many of my contactees in

1919
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,719
the support group as well

1920
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:09,040
so the men for example usually they will

1921
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,600
have implantation they will have a kind

1922
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:13,520
of experience where there's an

1923
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,560
extraction so semen is being extracted

1924
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,120
or any kind of genetic data and that is

1925
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:21,840
utilized in order to incubate uh or to

1926
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,639
create a fetus you know it can be

1927
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:26,560
through insemination of another partner

1928
01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:28,880
sometimes they're also made to unite to

1929
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,760
have a actual physical encounter and it

1930
01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:33,360
can be with a being or it could be with

1931
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:34,480
another human

1932
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:36,560
in these kinds of programs all of it is

1933
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,679
very much

1934
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:39,360
designed

1935
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,360
and there is a presentation where the

1936
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:43,120
child the children are the imprints that

1937
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:45,840
presented to the male now for the male

1938
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,239
they also experience ptsd sometimes they

1939
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:49,920
have a very hard time

1940
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:52,080
in their sexual life because it becomes

1941
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:53,840
very traumatic for them their

1942
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,000
experiences of contact have been so

1943
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:58,320
vivid that it's difficult for them to

1944
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,080
make sense of that experience and bring

1945
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,320
it into the into reality sometimes men

1946
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:05,360
will wake up uh with uh something that

1947
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:08,080
may feel like a wet dream but you know

1948
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,880
the the experiences that they had before

1949
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,800
that were very vivid sometimes they will

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01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:14,719
have markings on their body

1951
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:18,000
and um you know the dreams are about

1952
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:20,320
specifically being in contact either in

1953
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:22,000
craft or

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01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:23,040
um

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01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:24,960
with some kind of species you know they

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01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,159
have some kind of experience that

1957
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,080
they're in a laboratory or in some kind

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01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:30,400
of a hospital setting

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01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:32,639
so this is what makes these experiences

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01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:34,320
very specific and there's many other

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details everything from smells sense

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01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:38,480
that they're that they're feeling

1963
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:41,120
physical side effects you know and i

1964
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:43,280
will say that the majority of the people

1965
01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:45,199
that i work with these are not people

1966
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,000
that are on drugs for example

1967
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:50,880
in my experience i am highly highly

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01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:53,440
sensitive to even alcohol i cannot drink

1969
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:56,960
alcohol or take medications of any kind

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01:25:02,629 --> 01:24:59,120
much less any kind of recreational drugs

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01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,639
and i've never done that so uh this this

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01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:04,880
my clients also the ones that are in my

1973
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:07,679
research are also not under any kind of

1974
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:08,800
influence

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01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:11,360
so um you know it's it's interesting to

1976
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:12,880
see this i have people that are working

1977
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:15,600
in wall street doctors um you know

1978
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:18,480
nurses everyday uh you know house

1979
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,120
housewives that are experiencing things

1980
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:22,880
like this

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01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:26,080
the um uh

1982
01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:26,880
the

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01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:28,800
ability

1984
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:30,000
to

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01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:31,679
combine

1986
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,760
something with

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01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:35,840
uh

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01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:36,880
eggs

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01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:39,199
or the opposite

1990
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:42,000
human semen with some in order for that

1991
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,120
to work

1992
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:45,520
it's got to be a genetic match the dna

1993
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:46,639
has got a

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01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:49,600
we can't go and and artificially

1995
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,520
inseminate dolphins or uh monkeys and

1996
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:55,440
and have hybrids it doesn't work that

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01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:56,159
way

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01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,120
um things have to uh work with each

1999
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:01,120
other and you have the right chromosome

2000
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:03,760
there's a lot of complexities there but

2001
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:06,800
for this to work that means

2002
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:11,040
um these processes are either prepared

2003
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:13,920
right and there's technology or

2004
01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:16,560
there's already a genetic marker and

2005
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:19,679
footprint uh that goes back a long ways

2006
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:20,880
that

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01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:23,120
allows this to happen

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01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:25,440
uh naturally it's the right word without

2009
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:26,960
uh

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01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:29,360
going in with the crispr and dna snip

2011
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:30,719
snipping

2012
01:26:34,709 --> 01:26:32,400
that this is something that can happen

2013
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:34,719
naturally and that's pretty fascinating

2014
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,880
exactly and i love that you brought that

2015
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:39,040
up because that's exactly what

2016
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:41,040
you know this research is showing that

2017
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,560
actually we have that dna already in us

2018
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:47,040
which allows us to mix this dna with

2019
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:47,840
other

2020
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,239
families the contact that they're having

2021
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,480
are very similar so for example if a

2022
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,719
father has a lot of contact experiences

2023
01:27:02,229 --> 01:27:00,800
with lyran groups

2024
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:02,239
this is something that goes down their

2025
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:04,159
family lineage if they're open enough to

2026
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:05,760
talk about they're discovering you know

2027
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:08,000
i also saw this similar being i also saw

2028
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:10,400
this uh council there's a lot of

2029
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:12,800
councils that people encounter and

2030
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,000
councils uh tend to be a common uh a

2031
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:18,480
collection of many different races

2032
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:20,960
um what i'm noticing is that

2033
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,520
the the kind of races that are making up

2034
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,080
this council are the are a genetic

2035
01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:27,760
expression a holographic genetic

2036
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:30,800
expression of what's what's in the human

2037
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:32,960
that is actually experiencing that and

2038
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,040
we have many people work with many

2039
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,960
different councils there's also an

2040
01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:39,199
aspect of interdimensionality which

2041
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:40,639
complicates things a little bit more

2042
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:42,719
that we need to understand that there

2043
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:45,760
are many dimensions as well in which

2044
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:48,320
these activities are taking place and

2045
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:51,199
they play a role in the kind of being

2046
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:52,880
that is being created some of these

2047
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:54,880
beings are physical children that are

2048
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:57,280
put back into reincarnation cycle but

2049
01:28:00,550 --> 01:27:58,639
some of these children are also

2050
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:00,560
interdimensional and they never they're

2051
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:03,679
never born physically you know so um

2052
01:28:08,830 --> 01:28:05,600
there's also a reason for that and it

2053
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:08,840
has to do with the kind of access to the

2054
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:10,080
multi-dimensionality the

2055
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:13,840
multi-dimensional structure of this

2056
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:17,520
we are very multi-dimensional so

2057
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:19,040
certain things that we experience in the

2058
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:20,880
physical we won't be able to experience

2059
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,960
in these other dimensions which is why a

2060
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,880
lot of these experiences happen in dream

2061
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:26,880
time when people are in dream time when

2062
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:29,600
people are in the akashic realms

2063
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,520
they experience these kinds of contact

2064
01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:33,440
experiences and without the ability to

2065
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:35,600
have energetic hygiene that allows them

2066
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:38,400
to navigate these realms sometimes they

2067
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:40,960
are a victim of a lot of parasitic

2068
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:43,120
interactions so people have a lot of

2069
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,000
traumatic experiences and you know this

2070
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,159
plays a huge role in the ptsd that

2071
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:49,920
they're experiencing in their everyday

2072
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:51,920
life so you know there's a there's a

2073
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:53,520
profound connection between that and

2074
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:55,360
people's life really you know it really

2075
01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:57,440
comes to a stop if they don't understand

2076
01:29:02,709 --> 01:28:59,440
how to how to work with this how to

2077
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:02,719
change it um so you know and and you can

2078
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:04,080
you can't change it you just need to

2079
01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:07,120
understand who you are as a human which

2080
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,159
is an incredibly powerful

2081
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,639
co-creator you know there's there's a

2082
01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:14,880
key to understanding the role that you

2083
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:17,520
play in these hybridization programs

2084
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:19,840
and we'll continue that after the break

2085
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:22,639
um but let me ask you this before we get

2086
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:24,159
there

2087
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,280
that will say my it it wasn't fun

2088
01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:33,520
it it terrified me

2089
01:29:37,830 --> 01:29:35,199
um there are others out there that want

2090
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:37,840
to say that it was just it was an

2091
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:40,639
amazing experience and they would love

2092
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:42,400
for it to happen again

2093
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:45,679
uh what what side are you on

2094
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:48,000
um i think that these experiences when

2095
01:29:51,910 --> 01:29:50,480
we're unconscious are gonna happen

2096
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:51,920
whether you like it or not whether you

2097
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,000
are aware of it or not

2098
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,080
i think that our states of awareness our

2099
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:58,560
state of consciousness really defines

2100
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:01,040
what we do in this world in the physical

2101
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:03,920
and in the non-physical so in my opinion

2102
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,800
we need to learn how to become conscious

2103
01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:08,560
on all dimensional layers in the

2104
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,800
physical in our everyday life as well as

2105
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:12,560
interdimensionally and i think that

2106
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,480
we're moving in the direction of more

2107
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:16,480
interdimensional contact

2108
01:30:19,830 --> 01:30:18,000
this is going to become more mainstream

2109
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:19,840
more people are going to come out and

2110
01:30:23,510 --> 01:30:21,280
we're going to need to prepare for that

2111
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:23,520
by learning how to navigate the

2112
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:25,840
interdimensional realm but how do you

2113
01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,800
how do you how do you stop the fear

2114
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:30,719
uh well you need to become friends with

2115
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:32,239
the unknown you know and this is

2116
01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:33,600
something that this is what we're here

2117
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:34,480
to do

2118
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:35,520
yeah that's

2119
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:37,679
a little bit harder to uh do than just

2120
01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:40,400
say yes yes and and this is the human

2121
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:42,000
experience you know we came into the

2122
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:43,520
three-dimensional plane in order to

2123
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:46,560
experience duality you know contrast and

2124
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,800
so that that's what we're here for it's

2125
01:30:53,350 --> 01:30:51,040
through that experience that we begin to

2126
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:53,360
understand if we never overcame our

2127
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:55,520
fears of any kind we would just be

2128
01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:58,880
stagnant and die eventually so i i feel

2129
01:31:04,149 --> 01:31:01,120
that it's part of the human evolution as

2130
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,159
a collective not just individual um that

2131
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:06,400
we're learning how to do this

2132
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:09,040
um if anybody if you ever get the chance

2133
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:13,360
uh to go and see geraldine speak do that

2134
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:15,440
but if you can take things a step

2135
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:17,120
further and go up and just introduce

2136
01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:18,159
yourself

2137
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:20,880
um it's it's it's an amazing experience

2138
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:22,159
uh she's

2139
01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:23,440
she's um

2140
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:24,560
what's the word i don't want to

2141
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:28,000
embarrass you but uh you are your eyes

2142
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,880
are open well they are we can see that

2143
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:33,440
but but it's a great experience to just

2144
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:35,120
go and have a conversation with

2145
01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:37,199
geraldine uh we need to take a break

2146
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:39,120
right here we're going to continue

2147
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:41,520
when we come back and we're going to

2148
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:44,320
jump into uh what is interdimensionality

2149
01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:46,480
and and get some explanations going

2150
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,719
there too as well i'm yours jimmy church

2151
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:51,120
this is fade to block our guest tonight

2152
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:54,719
geraldine orozco making contact and what

2153
01:31:57,910 --> 01:31:56,000
to do

2154
01:32:04,130 --> 01:31:57,920
when it happens more geraldine after

2155
01:32:26,149 --> 01:32:11,920
[Music]

2156
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:26,159
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2157
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:28,370
you're listening to fade to black

2158
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:30,960
[Applause]

2159
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:33,120
you're listening to jimmy church and

2160
01:32:39,780 --> 01:32:34,639
fade to black

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[Applause]

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hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

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hey

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:15,679
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:19,040
jimmy church tonight geraldine orozco

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01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:20,719
we're having one of those conversations

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01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:23,679
this is great stuff and uh take note and

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01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,880
listen

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01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:26,239
because we're talking about making

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01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:27,360
contact

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01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:29,119
and when it happens what do you do with

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01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:32,400
it and uh gerald i wanted to share this

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01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:36,560
with you this weekend um i walked

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01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:39,520
a labyrinth with some friends right okay

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01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:41,840
a spiritual labyrinth

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01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:46,480
um and and the centers is uh on a vortex

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01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:48,400
right okay so anyway

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01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:51,040
but what you do with that see i know

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01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,239
this but i don't tell everybody else

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01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:56,800
that is with us all right i just do

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01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,149
don't talk

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01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:04,320
walk get to the center come back out

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01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:05,760
i'll see you on the other side that's

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01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,520
all you got to do right that's all you

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01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:09,119
got to do

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01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:13,040
and and and um so when

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01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:15,600
we we all do it and it's so funny uh

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01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:18,159
when you enter this is me this is my

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01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:19,280
head

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01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,600
is walking between the rocks

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01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:24,239
ain't anything going on

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01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:25,760
all right that's the challenge that's

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01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:28,639
what i say to myself right okay so the

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01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:29,760
you know

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01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:36,390
right and so um uh i get out i sit down

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01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:38,239
on first i i sit down i'll wait for

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01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:40,239
everybody nobody's talking because

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01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:41,280
everybody

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01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:43,119
you know what i mean and and this is

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01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:46,639
what i uh and so when everybody was was

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01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:48,560
back down to earth back in this

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01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:49,679
dimension

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01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,000
i said pretty profound huh and everybody

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01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:54,719
just did the same thing man wow

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01:40:03,350 --> 01:39:58,400
but but this was my comment to them

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01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:05,350
yeah right person

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01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,040
and and and have them walk that

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01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:09,360
labyrinth and they come out a different

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01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:11,280
person

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01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:14,239
it's a guarantee if you want a little

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01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:17,520
taste of of this of interdimensionality

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01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:19,119
of finding yourself

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01:40:22,629 --> 01:40:21,520
of seeing something that is

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01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,639
not

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01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:24,800
out there in the real world walk a

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01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:26,880
labyrinth and walk a special one you

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01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:29,199
know that is indigenous that is uh you

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01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,360
know at a sacred location

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01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,159
it's a profound experience isn't it wow

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01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:36,719
yeah that's beautiful it was crazy i

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01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:38,719
love it man i just love it

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01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:41,119
there was um okay can i share something

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01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:42,800
with you yeah please

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01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,280
i haven't told anybody this

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01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:46,960
so i'm walking through

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01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:50,560
the labyrinth and uh and i was i was

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01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:52,719
coming i went to the center did my

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01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:54,480
blessing you know and uh and now i'm

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01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,840
walking out and as i'm walking out uh

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01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,760
you know this whole thing takes about

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01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:01,760
half hour maybe an hour

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01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:03,679
um i'm coming and there's this little

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01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:07,760
lizard it's about this big on a rock

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01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,679
looking at me

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01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:11,199
just like this right

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01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,840
and i stop and i look i s i'm not

2343
01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:15,679
kidding

2344
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:16,840
we

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01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:19,280
talked did

2346
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:22,239
yeah yeah yeah like for real

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01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,360
and i just stopped and and dude and it

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01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:28,080
you know and uh

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01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:29,920
and then i just walked on but it was

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01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:31,119
totally cool

2351
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:33,040
i'm not going to get into it well you're

2352
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:35,760
not going to get into the conversation

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01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,639
okay

2354
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:38,960
he was a hipster though

2355
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:39,679
okay

2356
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:42,480
he was a hipster hipster lizard but yeah

2357
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:45,199
it's so much fun uh to go through that

2358
01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:47,920
and just um you know it's just you and

2359
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:49,679
your mind you know

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01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,840
and if you're gonna fib at that moment

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01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:55,679
right whatever and you know what i'm

2362
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:57,920
saying right you're fibbing to yourself

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01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:00,000
there's nobody else so you're lying to

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01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:03,920
yourself and that is another thing

2365
01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:06,320
that you are confronted with is is

2366
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,400
honesty it's amazing it's such an

2367
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:09,760
amazing experience when you're

2368
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:11,600
communicating with with nature with

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01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:13,119
beings you mean

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01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:16,719
no no with yourself ah okay yeah when

2371
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:19,760
it's just you when it's just you you

2372
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:21,920
don't have anybody around to impress or

2373
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:22,800
to

2374
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:28,480
right no when it's just you yeah yeah

2375
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:32,400
it's amazing it's amazing okay so

2376
01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:35,840
um i want to back up to uh

2377
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:38,320
your present to your live presentation

2378
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:41,280
not specifically but but what i mean by

2379
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:42,480
that is

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01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:45,520
when you are

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01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:46,320
uh

2382
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:47,520
speaking

2383
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:48,800
uh about

2384
01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:51,520
they're complex subjects but

2385
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:55,600
you are also helping people understand

2386
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:57,840
what they may go through

2387
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:00,000
in a contact experience and then what

2388
01:43:03,189 --> 01:43:02,080
you do with this information

2389
01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:03,199
right

2390
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:05,760
it's up to you to choose to

2391
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,560
uh

2392
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:09,040
to react to it and to absorb it and to

2393
01:43:13,830 --> 01:43:11,440
do something with it or not not all of

2394
01:43:16,390 --> 01:43:13,840
it is there for you right but that's

2395
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:16,400
that's the intention of the presentation

2396
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:17,679
when

2397
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:20,320
tonight there is somebody that that has

2398
01:43:24,629 --> 01:43:22,639
had a contact experience

2399
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:24,639
can you address that a little bit on

2400
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:27,520
what to do uh with the information that

2401
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,199
you are given

2402
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:31,440
yeah you know as i mentioned right

2403
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:33,119
before we were going to break one of the

2404
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:35,119
things that we're here to do as humans

2405
01:43:39,430 --> 01:43:37,520
just in general is to learn how to

2406
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,440
become friends with the unknown you know

2407
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:40,960
and we have to do that in many different

2408
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:43,199
ways i mean we we do that in our

2409
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:45,600
everyday experiences relationships we're

2410
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:47,280
learning how to handle awkward

2411
01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:48,719
relationships we're learning how to

2412
01:43:53,590 --> 01:43:50,480
communicate express

2413
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:53,600
love you know uh love ourselves

2414
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:56,800
so this is just a lifelong experience we

2415
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:58,480
and i'd like for you to think of et

2416
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:00,880
contact in this same way okay when you

2417
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:02,800
think of contact and i don't like to

2418
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:04,800
call it et contact i don't believe it's

2419
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:06,239
extraterrestrial i think it's

2420
01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:08,320
interdimensional

2421
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:11,520
and when we when we begin to merge into

2422
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:13,040
these other dimensions for contact

2423
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,960
whether you are conscious or you're in a

2424
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:16,239
dream state

2425
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,679
um

2426
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,600
you see there are certain mechanics to

2427
01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:20,800
the human

2428
01:44:24,790 --> 01:44:22,719
when we are in a state of fear of

2429
01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:24,800
anxiety of survival

2430
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:26,800
literally our entire multi-dimensional

2431
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:27,760
body

2432
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:29,760
uh because we are multi-dimensional we

2433
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:33,440
we we contract we actually are the way

2434
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:35,600
that our body is constructed we actually

2435
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:37,280
are a vortex

2436
01:44:42,470 --> 01:44:39,520
and when we have a lot of suffering and

2437
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:42,480
pain anxieties fears traumas through

2438
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:45,119
life this vortex kind of stops spinning

2439
01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:46,960
and it keeps accumulating a lot of this

2440
01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:49,600
heavy stuff so we end up being it's like

2441
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:51,920
you're carrying baggage you know so in

2442
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:54,000
your interdimensional contact if you're

2443
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:55,520
carrying a lot of baggage in your

2444
01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:57,440
everyday life experiences you haven't

2445
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:59,600
dealt with your trauma chances are the

2446
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:00,880
kind of contact that you're going to

2447
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:03,520
have is going to be pretty traumatic and

2448
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:04,960
you're going to

2449
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:07,440
experience a lot of very

2450
01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:09,280
helpless experiences where you're going

2451
01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:12,080
to probably feel very overwhelmed so

2452
01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:14,080
there is a connection

2453
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,239
your spiritual work is very much

2454
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:18,239
parallel to this kind of contact

2455
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:20,480
experiences if you begin to help

2456
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,800
yourself healing some of this trauma

2457
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,400
begin to let go of the baggage that

2458
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:26,239
you're carrying in your everyday life

2459
01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:28,639
your interdimensional contact will also

2460
01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:29,600
change

2461
01:45:32,430 --> 01:45:30,800
and

2462
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:32,440
this is where we start talking about

2463
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:34,480
interdimensionality how to master

2464
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,800
interdimensional navigation you know

2465
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:38,800
about lucid dreaming you know there are

2466
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:40,400
certain steps that you have to take in

2467
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:43,199
order to be a lucid dreamer and for

2468
01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:46,000
centuries humanity has been studying

2469
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:48,960
about the afterlife the egyptians to the

2470
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:51,440
mayans to uh many of the ancient

2471
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:54,400
cultures in south america in asia uh

2472
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:57,040
northern europe have been studying and

2473
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:58,719
trying to understand

2474
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:01,040
uh out of body experiences how to

2475
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:03,520
navigate that and then essentially

2476
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:05,360
preparing for death

2477
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:07,360
okay so this is the ultimate training

2478
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:09,119
ground when we're in the physical body

2479
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:10,800
we learn how to navigate the

2480
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:12,560
interdimensional realm

2481
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:15,679
first by becoming lucid then by having

2482
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:17,679
some kind of free will where you begin

2483
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:19,760
to navigate and you're choosing you're

2484
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:22,960
discerning so it's the same way in et in

2485
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:25,360
in this interdimensional contact

2486
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:26,880
first is becoming aware of your

2487
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:29,119
experience and always coming from a

2488
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:32,639
neutral state this body spins faster

2489
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:34,800
when we're in a state of neutrality

2490
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:37,040
because in that neutral state

2491
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:38,719
is the

2492
01:46:43,510 --> 01:46:41,199
point of where singularity where

2493
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,520
consciousness comes online

2494
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:45,840
okay so this is where we want to learn

2495
01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:48,480
how to come into neutrality neutrality

2496
01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:51,119
is also where unconditional love can be

2497
01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:53,360
burst right this is it emerges

2498
01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:55,199
unconditional love can emerge from us

2499
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:57,760
when we're in that state so

2500
01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:00,080
these same laws that can be applied to

2501
01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:03,520
creating a successful life can be

2502
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:05,840
applied to interdimensional contact

2503
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:08,000
because everything is frequency we are

2504
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:11,119
exchanging with things with people um

2505
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:13,280
well with beings okay so anything that

2506
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:15,040
either has consciousness or doesn't have

2507
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:17,280
consciousness we interact with it and

2508
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:19,119
there's a transference that is occurring

2509
01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:21,119
whether we're aware of it or not

2510
01:47:25,750 --> 01:47:23,360
so in our everyday life with humans and

2511
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:25,760
interdimensionally we are also inputting

2512
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:27,679
into that experience from the

2513
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:30,800
subconscious mind very deep profound

2514
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:33,920
core belief systems if our entire life

2515
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:37,119
is an expression of feeling helpless

2516
01:47:40,229 --> 01:47:38,800
lost

2517
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:40,239
chances are the kind of contact

2518
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:41,679
experience you're having is going to

2519
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:44,560
mirror that in some way and this is very

2520
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:46,000
important for people that are having

2521
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:47,679
traumatic experience that want to no

2522
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,560
longer have traumatic experiences we

2523
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:52,800
have to learn how to

2524
01:47:57,750 --> 01:47:55,600
shift your own personal frequency so

2525
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:57,760
that you can no longer be a match to

2526
01:48:02,470 --> 01:48:00,480
those kinds of experiences and this is a

2527
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:02,480
process of integration you know it takes

2528
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:03,600
some time

2529
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:08,320
it takes um a very profound amount of

2530
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:10,639
self love to understand that you can

2531
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:13,280
accept yourself and all

2532
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,040
all of these strange experiences that

2533
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:17,280
are happening to you that we often feel

2534
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:19,920
that we lose control in them you know

2535
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:21,199
okay

2536
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,960
an amazing thing to say

2537
01:48:31,750 --> 01:48:29,280
i get it i understand it

2538
01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:31,760
but there is a process to get to that

2539
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:32,719
point

2540
01:48:36,550 --> 01:48:34,400
where you're not having

2541
01:48:39,590 --> 01:48:36,560
you're not attracting trauma

2542
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:39,600
and so to get to that point is it a

2543
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:42,159
stage a list of things

2544
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:44,800
get rid of negative friends uh to start

2545
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:47,440
to achieve a more positive outlook um

2546
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,000
you mentioned baggage earlier right so

2547
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:52,159
you're walking around with the samsonite

2548
01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:54,800
luggage hanging off of you right right

2549
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,119
you've got to start snip snip you know

2550
01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:58,960
snipping this baggage and leaving that

2551
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:00,560
stuff behind

2552
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:02,880
it it's not an overnight process is it

2553
01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:05,440
but you will see

2554
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:08,080
the the transition in yourself you can

2555
01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:10,000
look back after a few months go wow i'm

2556
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:11,920
actually a different person

2557
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,400
yes i mean there's stages to everything

2558
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:16,480
and it takes time and

2559
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:19,280
i think what what i'm surmising for you

2560
01:49:23,590 --> 01:49:21,280
is something that took many years for me

2561
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:23,600
to understand and many existential

2562
01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:25,920
crises right where you're like okay what

2563
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:27,440
are we talking about here am i going

2564
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:28,480
crazy

2565
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:30,400
um you know are we really going to talk

2566
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:32,239
about interdimensional beings and all

2567
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:35,520
this stuff it is a process and i i think

2568
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:37,040
that

2569
01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:39,600
the reason why et contact is coming more

2570
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:42,000
into mainstream is that more of a more

2571
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:44,320
humans are going to be recalling their

2572
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,440
experience the veil is thinning in such

2573
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:49,760
a way that we are going to

2574
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:51,920
be more aware of these kinds of things

2575
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:54,880
okay so we see lots of uaps we saw the

2576
01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:57,199
government disclosures that they did so

2577
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:58,639
we have to start having these

2578
01:50:02,629 --> 01:50:00,000
conversations even though they're

2579
01:50:04,629 --> 01:50:02,639
difficult um because this is where the

2580
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:04,639
human begins to move forward and a lot

2581
01:50:08,149 --> 01:50:05,920
of things are going to be shifting in

2582
01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:08,159
the next few years where we're going to

2583
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:10,320
have to learn about we're going to

2584
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:12,480
expand our minds in the areas of science

2585
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:13,520
physics

2586
01:50:17,350 --> 01:50:15,360
you know spirituality all these things

2587
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:17,360
so the comfort zone we have to start

2588
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:18,719
understanding

2589
01:50:23,830 --> 01:50:21,520
uh comfort zone is an illusion

2590
01:50:25,750 --> 01:50:23,840
and it's very temporary things always

2591
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:25,760
are changing that's the nature that's

2592
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,320
the that's the laws of nature nature is

2593
01:50:33,430 --> 01:50:30,480
ever evolving even death we have to

2594
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:33,440
understand is a natural part of life and

2595
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:35,760
old ways of thinking you know have to

2596
01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:38,400
die otherwise we come into resistance

2597
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:40,080
and then lots of uh problems

2598
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:43,040
perspectives it's a circle right

2599
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:45,360
everything is cyclical yes yeah

2600
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:47,040
the um

2601
01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:48,800
uh the internet

2602
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:51,679
the interdimensional aspect to this

2603
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:55,040
there are a couple of different ways

2604
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:57,760
to look at what inter-dimensional

2605
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:59,199
actually means

2606
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:00,719
you you could look at the physical

2607
01:51:06,310 --> 01:51:04,400
aspect of it et is their craft is

2608
01:51:07,590 --> 01:51:06,320
getting here not because they're driving

2609
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:07,600
through space

2610
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:10,159
but it's an interdimensional arrival

2611
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:11,920
right they're not going through the vast

2612
01:51:18,070 --> 01:51:15,360
distances of space that's one

2613
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,080
uh pop culture definition of uh

2614
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:20,400
interdimensionality

2615
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:22,960
is interdimensional because we don't see

2616
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:27,040
him appear or disappear in the physical

2617
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:29,280
he seems to just appear i don't know

2618
01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:33,119
walking through a portal maybe but that

2619
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:35,360
bigfoot may be interdimensional in that

2620
01:51:39,189 --> 01:51:37,679
stepping from one dimension

2621
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:39,199
into another

2622
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:40,639
and then

2623
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:43,599
uh what you are speaking about here

2624
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:46,239
that some of these aspects of vt which

2625
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:48,320
you said you you think et is just

2626
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:49,840
inter-dimensional

2627
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:54,800
what

2628
01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:57,440
well let me put it this way um

2629
01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:59,679
when you look at your finger you know it

2630
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:01,119
under a microscope you know you're going

2631
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:03,840
to go down down down into into

2632
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:05,040
you know

2633
01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:08,320
atoms you're zooming into to levels of

2634
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,599
of your finger looking at your finger

2635
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:12,080
which you think is nice little solid uh

2636
01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:14,000
you know part of your body but as you go

2637
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:15,679
deeper into that you begin to see that

2638
01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:18,000
the structures that make up your finger

2639
01:52:21,910 --> 01:52:20,000
are actually made up of more space than

2640
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:21,920
actual something solid you know and

2641
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:24,080
there's levels to that each one of those

2642
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:26,080
levels is like another dimension which

2643
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:27,840
you're looking at yourself

2644
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,880
and everything that surrounds us can be

2645
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:33,360
looked at in this way we look at it from

2646
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:35,040
one dimension but things have many

2647
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:36,320
dimensions

2648
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:38,960
um and we forget that because we are

2649
01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:40,800
very used to looking at things from this

2650
01:52:45,669 --> 01:52:42,719
very myopic perspective that everything

2651
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,679
is just right here um you know and those

2652
01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:47,520
of you that are more empathic

2653
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,719
uh kind of have a um entryway into this

2654
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:52,880
interdimensional world because you are

2655
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:55,199
sensing things constantly you pick up

2656
01:52:59,830 --> 01:52:57,360
people's emotions you pick up

2657
01:53:01,830 --> 01:52:59,840
things in a room some people have uh

2658
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:01,840
intuition they can see ghosts they can

2659
01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:03,679
intuit things say telepathic

2660
01:53:07,189 --> 01:53:05,280
communications

2661
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:07,199
you know so we're we're very much

2662
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:09,760
existing in an interdimensional world

2663
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:10,880
but

2664
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:13,760
we have the ability of heightening those

2665
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:16,639
senses by practicing certain things we

2666
01:53:20,229 --> 01:53:19,040
can learn to cultivate those senses and

2667
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:20,239
when you do

2668
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:22,400
a new vision emerges into these

2669
01:53:26,870 --> 01:53:24,080
dimensional realms

2670
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,880
which you you may have been existing in

2671
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:28,719
the same space but you didn't know

2672
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,480
existed okay so

2673
01:53:35,189 --> 01:53:32,960
so this is something that all humans

2674
01:53:37,109 --> 01:53:35,199
have the ability of navigating but it's

2675
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:37,119
just a matter of the cultivation and

2676
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:38,960
getting to know how your physical body

2677
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:42,400
functions you know so um this is this

2678
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:44,400
these are things that have been

2679
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:47,599
uh studied we can read them in many

2680
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,480
books

2681
01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,719
on the sciences of energy and

2682
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:52,800
cultivation of life force

2683
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:56,719
in many many different ancient cultures

2684
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:58,400
and a lot of this information has been

2685
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:00,000
kind of pushed to the wayside as

2686
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,000
something that's not as important as we

2687
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,840
kind of externalized our human

2688
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:05,840
experience but i think it's very

2689
01:54:09,669 --> 01:54:07,679
important that as we are now going to

2690
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:09,679
this other side of the cycle that we are

2691
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:11,440
in right now where we're beginning to

2692
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:13,360
have more interdimensional

2693
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:15,599
awareness that we need to learn how to

2694
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:17,679
navigate that and we're we're we're like

2695
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:19,360
babies you know we're just learning how

2696
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:20,800
to navigate that so everything is going

2697
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:23,199
to feel awkward weird unsure whether we

2698
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,560
can go down that path or have that

2699
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:26,159
conversation

2700
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:27,920
but it's within your body when you go

2701
01:54:31,790 --> 01:54:29,760
inside that you can begin to become

2702
01:54:34,229 --> 01:54:31,800
aware and familiar with this kind of

2703
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:34,239
interdimensionality now the other side

2704
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:36,560
of that is the structure of that

2705
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:38,159
interdimensionality which is very

2706
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:41,280
complex because we are made up our

2707
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:43,760
physical body is made up of layers we

2708
01:54:48,830 --> 01:54:46,239
have 13 main dimensional layers that

2709
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:48,840
make up this physical body and those

2710
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:51,360
intermesh into the reality that we're

2711
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:54,080
experiencing here you and i they they

2712
01:54:59,430 --> 01:54:56,880
our perception is fed

2713
01:55:01,270 --> 01:54:59,440
by belief systems that are programmed

2714
01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:01,280
into the system and most of us are

2715
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:03,760
operating by let's say what you may call

2716
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:06,000
the matrix hologram

2717
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:07,920
which is basically all of this uh

2718
01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:09,520
everything that we've learned that is

2719
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:11,520
existing which we started our show there

2720
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:13,760
we talked about the programming of what

2721
01:55:18,550 --> 01:55:16,320
it means to be a human right so when

2722
01:55:20,629 --> 01:55:18,560
that becomes destructed um you know

2723
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,639
after you deconstruct that you kind of

2724
01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:22,400
come into a new way of looking at

2725
01:55:27,189 --> 01:55:25,199
yourself and and this is where you start

2726
01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:27,199
going into the interdimensional realms

2727
01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:29,360
of yourself you begin to discover that

2728
01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:31,920
the human is more than just a physical

2729
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:34,960
body having a human experience

2730
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:37,360
and so there's there's a way to navigate

2731
01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:39,760
that in your dream time when you go into

2732
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:42,320
dream state you begin to navigate 7th

2733
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:44,480
8th 9th 10th dimensional plane but you

2734
01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:46,400
don't know that you just have these

2735
01:55:52,149 --> 01:55:49,760
awkward strange abstract dreams that may

2736
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:52,159
seem like nothing but in reality you're

2737
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:54,560
actually exchanging you're experiencing

2738
01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:57,040
something in those realms and so when

2739
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:58,960
you become lucid and you start

2740
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:01,119
navigating that you can kind of begin to

2741
01:56:06,070 --> 01:56:03,679
understand what you're doing et contact

2742
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:06,080
is very much like that and we have

2743
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:08,560
people that have been a part of secret

2744
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:11,360
space programs

2745
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:13,760
and unfortunately a lot of involvement

2746
01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:15,760
with government programs which have

2747
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:18,880
utilized these kinds of senses these

2748
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:21,360
very highly activated and cultivated

2749
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:24,560
senses in people for negative things you

2750
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:27,679
know like mk programs mind control

2751
01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:30,159
programs remote viewing programs people

2752
01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:32,080
that have activated these senses have

2753
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:34,480
been weaponized for the benefit of

2754
01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:36,960
certain groups so this is not something

2755
01:56:41,109 --> 01:56:38,800
that is just made up it's something that

2756
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:41,119
we understand is available to the human

2757
01:56:44,550 --> 01:56:42,639
the question is what do you do with that

2758
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:44,560
and how do you use that people that have

2759
01:56:47,589 --> 01:56:46,400
been a part of secret space program have

2760
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:47,599
been involved in some of these

2761
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:49,760
experiences since childhood and they

2762
01:56:54,550 --> 01:56:52,639
remember having alternate lives existing

2763
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:54,560
in different places and then coming back

2764
01:57:01,270 --> 01:56:57,840
to their physical body the human can be

2765
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:01,280
fragmented and this fragmentation causes

2766
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:03,760
the human to become very entangled into

2767
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,000
the matrix the hybridization program

2768
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:08,239
functions in the same way

2769
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,560
and i i know that's a little general but

2770
01:57:14,709 --> 01:57:12,880
it's a very it's a general no it's not

2771
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:14,719
general um

2772
01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:17,119
uh let me put this into context if you

2773
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:18,880
ever wanted proof

2774
01:57:21,189 --> 01:57:20,159
of uh

2775
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:21,199
the

2776
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:22,880
a parallel world or something

2777
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:25,040
interdimensional

2778
01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,480
listen to this

2779
01:57:31,750 --> 01:57:28,560
let's say

2780
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:33,270
swimming around

2781
01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:35,199
you got your world

2782
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:37,440
you got your mom your dad your brothers

2783
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:39,199
and sisters you got a school of fish

2784
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:42,000
you're getting educated life is good

2785
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:42,880
right

2786
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:44,960
and then one day

2787
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,280
a fishing net comes in

2788
01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:49,520
and pulls you out

2789
01:57:53,189 --> 01:57:51,360
and you go from

2790
01:57:54,470 --> 01:57:53,199
a world

2791
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:54,480
into

2792
01:57:59,109 --> 01:57:56,639
another world

2793
01:58:01,030 --> 01:57:59,119
that doesn't exist

2794
01:58:04,149 --> 01:58:01,040
to you

2795
01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:04,159
and you're looking at these big aliens

2796
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:06,400
looking down at you

2797
01:58:11,189 --> 01:58:08,800
you know from above and then they they

2798
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:11,199
reach down and grab you

2799
01:58:16,070 --> 01:58:12,880
and throw you back into the other

2800
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:16,080
dimension and then you swim home

2801
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:18,719
mom dad

2802
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:20,560
i went to another world today there's

2803
01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:22,320
another world out there it's another

2804
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:25,280
dimension and i just came out

2805
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,320
and these alien beings they were giants

2806
01:58:32,709 --> 01:58:30,560
and they were looking down and they were

2807
01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:32,719
speaking a strange language and i didn't

2808
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:34,159
know what was going on and then they

2809
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:35,520
just picked me up

2810
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:37,520
and then and threw me back through the

2811
01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:43,109
and you you're you're dreaming

2812
01:58:49,030 --> 01:58:45,040
you made all that up

2813
01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:49,040
it's the same exact experience we see

2814
01:58:54,070 --> 01:58:51,280
the world that we understand

2815
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:54,080
right we see the physicality of it and

2816
01:58:59,270 --> 01:58:56,320
we understand it because we can see feel

2817
01:59:01,830 --> 01:58:59,280
touch smell and understand

2818
01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:01,840
but that doesn't mean that there isn't

2819
01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:05,040
something else out there

2820
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:08,719
a a thousandth of a millimeter

2821
01:59:12,070 --> 01:59:10,000
separating

2822
01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:12,080
this dimension from another

2823
01:59:17,750 --> 01:59:15,679
and and string theory presents this

2824
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:17,760
exact idea

2825
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:21,840
string theory says we have

2826
01:59:25,109 --> 01:59:24,159
eleven dimensions

2827
01:59:28,149 --> 01:59:25,119
eleven

2828
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:28,159
not the four that we we're familiar with

2829
01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:30,560
but eleven

2830
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:32,480
and this is what they are pushing on the

2831
01:59:37,030 --> 01:59:34,800
boundaries of science so when we talk

2832
01:59:38,550 --> 01:59:37,040
about this and you just you said it a

2833
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:38,560
few times tonight

2834
01:59:42,470 --> 01:59:39,840
um

2835
01:59:44,870 --> 01:59:42,480
uh it is very important for us to

2836
01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:44,880
to let go of the dogma of everything

2837
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,639
that we have been taught and and start

2838
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:48,480
to understand that there is something

2839
01:59:53,750 --> 01:59:50,880
else out there quite possibly living

2840
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:53,760
alongside us at this very moment and we

2841
01:59:57,910 --> 01:59:56,159
can access it and we all have the

2842
02:00:00,390 --> 01:59:57,920
ability to do it we just have to

2843
02:00:02,149 --> 02:00:00,400
understand the processes

2844
02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:02,159
yes that's right

2845
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:04,239
yeah

2846
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:06,320
the um uh

2847
02:00:18,229 --> 02:00:07,040
the

2848
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:18,239
and

2849
02:00:26,070 --> 02:00:24,320
these science fiction concepts that

2850
02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:26,080
they're trying to you know prove with

2851
02:00:30,229 --> 02:00:28,719
the hard sciences now is exactly what

2852
02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:30,239
you've been talking about for so many

2853
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:31,760
years

2854
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:34,000
yes and i i think that you know there is

2855
02:00:37,589 --> 02:00:35,840
plenty of science to support it now

2856
02:00:39,589 --> 02:00:37,599
we're just starting we're you know and

2857
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:39,599
yes it's a lot of this science is kind

2858
02:00:43,589 --> 02:00:41,679
of at the edge it's you know it's it's

2859
02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:43,599
it's along with the conversation of

2860
02:00:47,510 --> 02:00:45,760
consciousness it's very hard for science

2861
02:00:49,589 --> 02:00:47,520
it cannot be explained in the language

2862
02:00:51,510 --> 02:00:49,599
of science you know because it's very

2863
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:51,520
much philosophical

2864
02:00:55,910 --> 02:00:53,679
uh slash scientific kind of thing you

2865
02:00:58,070 --> 02:00:55,920
know so it's almost like we we're kind

2866
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:58,080
of the pioneers in creating a new way of

2867
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:00,400
looking at the world but i think i think

2868
02:01:05,990 --> 02:01:02,560
if you connect with a human in just the

2869
02:01:07,589 --> 02:01:06,000
most human primal uh state

2870
02:01:09,350 --> 02:01:07,599
those that have experienced this kind of

2871
02:01:11,830 --> 02:01:09,360
contact you understand it in a very

2872
02:01:12,550 --> 02:01:11,840
abstract way you know and so

2873
02:01:16,390 --> 02:01:12,560
we

2874
02:01:18,629 --> 02:01:16,400
this um

2875
02:01:20,870 --> 02:01:18,639
of this journey of understanding how to

2876
02:01:22,550 --> 02:01:20,880
talk about these things how to

2877
02:01:24,790 --> 02:01:22,560
express them and i think that in the

2878
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:24,800
next 10 years we will move pretty

2879
02:01:29,669 --> 02:01:26,960
quickly in in being able to understand

2880
02:01:31,750 --> 02:01:29,679
and explain these in a way that's easier

2881
02:01:33,350 --> 02:01:31,760
but it's such a fascinating subject and

2882
02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:33,360
we'll continue the conversation right

2883
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:35,040
after this short break this is fade to

2884
02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:37,040
black i am your host jimmy church

2885
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:39,280
tonight geraldine orozco we're talking

2886
02:01:44,470 --> 02:01:42,719
about making contact and what to do

2887
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:44,480
when it happens

2888
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:46,000
all of that much more after this short

2889
02:01:56,709 --> 02:01:55,030
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2890
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2956
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:07,620
on the game changer radio network

2957
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:23,350
welcome back fade to black i am your

2958
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:24,880
host jimmy church tonight geraldine

2959
02:05:29,750 --> 02:05:27,199
orozco is with us

2960
02:05:31,669 --> 02:05:29,760
talking about making contact and when

2961
02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:31,679
and if it happens what do you do about

2962
02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:33,520
it what do you do with the information

2963
02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:35,040
that you are given

2964
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:36,320
these are

2965
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:39,119
very very important and profound uh

2966
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:41,199
questions geraldine

2967
02:05:46,310 --> 02:05:44,320
um and i wanted to ask you when when

2968
02:05:49,109 --> 02:05:46,320
this uh

2969
02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:49,119
first experience of downloads the uh

2970
02:05:54,390 --> 02:05:51,840
2013 let's go let's start there because

2971
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:54,400
it happened earlier too as well but

2972
02:05:59,990 --> 02:05:57,119
um were you able to

2973
02:06:02,229 --> 02:06:00,000
how much of it um did you remember uh

2974
02:06:05,430 --> 02:06:02,239
directly and and when you're talking

2975
02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:05,440
about you know symbols and math and

2976
02:06:11,350 --> 02:06:08,800
and complex geometry and imagery

2977
02:06:12,950 --> 02:06:11,360
um how do you reta how how were you able

2978
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:12,960
to retain that

2979
02:06:17,430 --> 02:06:14,800
yeah so a very interesting thing

2980
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:17,440
happened so there were eight levels to

2981
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:18,880
this prism that they were showing me and

2982
02:06:22,950 --> 02:06:20,800
the first level showed me this alien

2983
02:06:25,589 --> 02:06:22,960
language the alien language was then

2984
02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:25,599
shown that it was put into a notebook

2985
02:06:29,030 --> 02:06:27,840
a pink notebook they actually showed me

2986
02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:29,040
this pink notebook and this pink

2987
02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:30,639
notebook is something that i use in my

2988
02:06:36,069 --> 02:06:32,880
work as a designer during that time i

2989
02:06:38,550 --> 02:06:36,079
was still working as an event planner

2990
02:06:40,550 --> 02:06:38,560
so i i took note of that but i i didn't

2991
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:40,560
think too much of it they removed that

2992
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:42,000
image

2993
02:06:45,350 --> 02:06:43,840
and from then they showed me the

2994
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:45,360
pleiades the constellation of the

2995
02:06:49,030 --> 02:06:47,920
pleiades they showed me the planet maya

2996
02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:49,040
and we

2997
02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:51,040
they took me to the planet maya we

2998
02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:52,960
navigated to that place

2999
02:06:57,910 --> 02:06:55,679
and uh to that to that planet they

3000
02:06:59,669 --> 02:06:57,920
showed me the planet maya i remember

3001
02:07:02,229 --> 02:06:59,679
vividly everything being there

3002
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:02,239
experiencing it and even seeing myself

3003
02:07:05,510 --> 02:07:03,599
which is what they were showing me they

3004
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:05,520
were showing that i existed in the

3005
02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:07,360
planet maya

3006
02:07:11,589 --> 02:07:09,840
and that i was doing something similar

3007
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:11,599
to what i'm doing now but i didn't know

3008
02:07:14,470 --> 02:07:12,960
that yet i didn't understand that i

3009
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:14,480
would be doing that

3010
02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:16,239
they also showed me and presented to me

3011
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:18,560
the hybrid children and that was the

3012
02:07:24,390 --> 02:07:20,880
most shocking part when i saw the hybrid

3013
02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:24,400
children i began to recall memories

3014
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:26,000
everything that i had experienced with

3015
02:07:30,470 --> 02:07:28,480
these with these children since child

3016
02:07:32,390 --> 02:07:30,480
and even uh one of the children that

3017
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:32,400
they showed to me that manifested into

3018
02:07:36,310 --> 02:07:34,480
the physical was a child that i kept

3019
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:36,320
having a recurring dream that my mother

3020
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:38,159
would bring the child to me in this

3021
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:40,800
stream from from a white light and i was

3022
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:42,560
thinking as a child i would have this

3023
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:44,320
dream like for at least

3024
02:07:48,470 --> 02:07:46,000
probably six years from the age of like

3025
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:48,480
three to about eight years old

3026
02:07:52,950 --> 02:07:51,280
um and i would always think it must be a

3027
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:52,960
future sister that i'm gonna have or

3028
02:07:55,750 --> 02:07:54,239
it's going to be my child that i'm going

3029
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:55,760
to have in the future i didn't

3030
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:57,199
understand it and when i saw that little

3031
02:08:02,229 --> 02:08:00,079
girl i recognized her and i understood

3032
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:02,239
this also is a common thing with

3033
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:04,800
contactees that have presentations a lot

3034
02:08:08,629 --> 02:08:06,639
of family members are involved in the

3035
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:08,639
presentations but that's a whole other

3036
02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:10,000
topic

3037
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:12,079
but to answer your question um

3038
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:14,400
everything was incredibly vivid when

3039
02:08:19,189 --> 02:08:16,560
they removed the children and they

3040
02:08:21,910 --> 02:08:19,199
showed me the matrix they showed me the

3041
02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:21,920
construct of the matrix because i became

3042
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:23,760
i became very emotional when i saw the

3043
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:25,760
children i started to remember i didn't

3044
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:28,239
know how to place them i thought i need

3045
02:08:33,589 --> 02:08:31,760
to leave my human life and be here on

3046
02:08:36,229 --> 02:08:33,599
this craft to take care of them that was

3047
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:36,239
my human thinking you know but obviously

3048
02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:38,480
that that wasn't going to be the case

3049
02:08:43,030 --> 02:08:41,360
um so i i began to get emotional they

3050
02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:43,040
don't want you to feel any kinds of

3051
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:45,199
emotions on board the craft so they

3052
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:47,280
immediately removed that emotion from my

3053
02:08:52,470 --> 02:08:50,239
body and began to show me how the matrix

3054
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:52,480
function they showed me a fields of

3055
02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:55,280
tulips holographically and they would

3056
02:09:00,709 --> 02:08:58,079
zoom in to this field of tulips where i

3057
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:00,719
began to see at the quantum level how

3058
02:09:04,629 --> 02:09:03,520
this structure of the flower was made

3059
02:09:06,950 --> 02:09:04,639
and

3060
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:06,960
this was the first time that i became

3061
02:09:11,510 --> 02:09:09,360
aware of this way of thinking you know

3062
02:09:14,229 --> 02:09:11,520
but they began to show me human souls

3063
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:14,239
and how the life force in the human soul

3064
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:15,840
was different than the molecules that

3065
02:09:19,589 --> 02:09:17,360
was making up everything else in our

3066
02:09:22,470 --> 02:09:19,599
reality this hologram

3067
02:09:25,109 --> 02:09:22,480
and everything was absolutely vivid i

3068
02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:25,119
was even taken into a

3069
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:27,679
the orion rainbow nebula

3070
02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:29,920
where i experienced peace for the very

3071
02:09:33,430 --> 02:09:31,599
first time in my life something i had

3072
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:33,440
never experienced before until that

3073
02:09:37,270 --> 02:09:36,239
moment and that was very life changing

3074
02:09:43,430 --> 02:09:37,280
so

3075
02:09:46,069 --> 02:09:43,440
to 6 15 in the morning i find myself now

3076
02:09:48,870 --> 02:09:46,079
on the edge of my bed upside down i have

3077
02:09:49,669 --> 02:09:48,880
burn marks here underneath my eyes and i

3078
02:09:51,910 --> 02:09:49,679
have

3079
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:51,920
a marking of three dots which is still

3080
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:55,520
on my arm and i have like uh dirty feet

3081
02:10:00,550 --> 02:09:57,840
it's it's like as if i had left the

3082
02:10:02,229 --> 02:10:00,560
house you know so uh the first thing i

3083
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:02,239
want to do is call the cops in the

3084
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:03,840
hospital because i'm thinking you know i

3085
02:10:06,709 --> 02:10:05,520
need some assistance and i i don't

3086
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:06,719
understand what am i doing with the

3087
02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:09,119
children what do i do with my life here

3088
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:11,520
um and i i paused and i said what am i

3089
02:10:15,669 --> 02:10:13,520
gonna ask them like

3090
02:10:17,990 --> 02:10:15,679
alien children you know it just sounded

3091
02:10:19,669 --> 02:10:18,000
ridiculous but at that moment i didn't

3092
02:10:22,629 --> 02:10:19,679
know how to place it

3093
02:10:24,310 --> 02:10:22,639
um and the pink book that i was telling

3094
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:24,320
you about

3095
02:10:30,709 --> 02:10:28,159
um immediately after having that moment

3096
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:30,719
i began to draw the symbols because it

3097
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:32,159
was right there it was right there on my

3098
02:10:36,069 --> 02:10:34,079
desk so i began to draw the symbols that

3099
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:36,079
i saw and i wrote like five pages of

3100
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:37,920
symbols that i remembered i tried to

3101
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:39,760
remember as much as possible

3102
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:42,880
and that i put that aside and after that

3103
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:45,280
my body was hurting so much that i i

3104
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:47,599
couldn't do anything that entire day so

3105
02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:49,360
the entire saturday don't remember

3106
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:51,679
anything sunday i talked to my parents i

3107
02:10:55,750 --> 02:10:53,679
let them know what happened to me

3108
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:55,760
and you know they were very supportive

3109
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:58,480
my childhood parents you were abducted

3110
02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:00,960
yes yeah okay

3111
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:03,040
well you know my parents are very loving

3112
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:04,800
and very supportive you know i come from

3113
02:11:10,790 --> 02:11:07,280
a very spiritual family so they they

3114
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:10,800
were they heard the entire experience um

3115
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:12,639
and my father said i asked them you know

3116
02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:14,079
have you ever had something like this

3117
02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:16,400
what do i do what do i make of this

3118
02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:19,280
and um they both shared that they had

3119
02:11:22,709 --> 02:11:21,119
had experiences

3120
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:22,719
you know they had had sightings they had

3121
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:24,880
had experiences many experiences and i

3122
02:11:29,350 --> 02:11:26,719
said how can you not talk about this how

3123
02:11:31,109 --> 02:11:29,360
is it that we never even talked about

3124
02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:31,119
something like that's pretty huge you

3125
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:32,480
know

3126
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:34,880
and my grandmother had experiences she

3127
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:37,040
was known for always having sightings

3128
02:11:40,069 --> 02:11:38,400
when she lived in south america in

3129
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:40,079
bolivia you know

3130
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:41,360
so

3131
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:43,360
it was just incredible and at that

3132
02:11:47,589 --> 02:11:45,679
moment i felt supported but still not

3133
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:47,599
sure how to talk about you know what to

3134
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:50,320
do with these children so monday i go to

3135
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:52,239
work and i teach my first meditation

3136
02:11:58,149 --> 02:11:55,440
client and boom i can see absolutely

3137
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:58,159
everything in her multi-dimensional body

3138
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:00,960
i can see the organs in her body i can

3139
02:12:06,229 --> 02:12:04,239
see life force energy color stagnation i

3140
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:06,239
can feel everything that she's feeling

3141
02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:07,520
and thinking

3142
02:12:12,069 --> 02:12:09,840
and you know at this point it was so

3143
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:12,079
overwhelming i got through that session

3144
02:12:16,310 --> 02:12:13,920
with her but after that i really

3145
02:12:19,030 --> 02:12:16,320
couldn't leave my house for three months

3146
02:12:22,229 --> 02:12:19,040
and for me i think if it wasn't for the

3147
02:12:24,229 --> 02:12:22,239
activation of intuitive abilities i also

3148
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:24,239
i'm not i don't probably don't know if i

3149
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:25,920
would have believed what had happened to

3150
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:28,000
me myself even

3151
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:30,400
having these physical side effects

3152
02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:33,520
because it was so unbelievable you know

3153
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:35,760
again can i ask you a quick question

3154
02:12:38,950 --> 02:12:37,920
this is kind of the masculine side of

3155
02:12:42,709 --> 02:12:38,960
things

3156
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:42,719
um this is the way men think right okay

3157
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:45,760
um you said dirty feet

3158
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:46,800
so

3159
02:12:53,390 --> 02:12:49,040
this is no longer

3160
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:53,400
something

3161
02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:56,320
interdimensional totally partially yes

3162
02:12:59,750 --> 02:12:57,440
for sure

3163
02:13:03,990 --> 02:12:59,760
but now there's an actual physical

3164
02:13:06,790 --> 02:13:04,000
aspect to this and now you have to you

3165
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:06,800
have to face that reality too

3166
02:13:12,069 --> 02:13:09,520
what did the dirty feet tell you that

3167
02:13:14,069 --> 02:13:12,079
you had to answer inside of yourself

3168
02:13:15,589 --> 02:13:14,079
yeah i mean uh you know i i don't

3169
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:15,599
sleepwalk i don't have a habit of

3170
02:13:21,109 --> 02:13:18,159
sleepwalking or or having any kind of

3171
02:13:23,750 --> 02:13:21,119
synonymous i i really have never really

3172
02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:23,760
had uh sleep paralysis either and the

3173
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:25,840
times that i have are very vivid and

3174
02:13:29,750 --> 02:13:28,079
very few so that's another thing i also

3175
02:13:31,589 --> 02:13:29,760
want to mention people want to connect

3176
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:31,599
sleep paralysis with this but in this

3177
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:34,320
case it was definitely not connected

3178
02:13:38,310 --> 02:13:37,040
because my bed was still open for me

3179
02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:38,320
getting out and my bed is in a

3180
02:13:40,950 --> 02:13:39,840
completely different location for my

3181
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:40,960
window

3182
02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:42,719
so you know it's it's further away so

3183
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:44,639
you have to get up to get to the window

3184
02:13:48,149 --> 02:13:46,719
that's not sleep paralysis no if you're

3185
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:48,159
if you're getting up and going to the

3186
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:51,360
window and and and peeking out that has

3187
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:53,840
that is not sleep paralysis yes and and

3188
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:55,040
the other thing that was interesting i

3189
02:13:59,189 --> 02:13:57,040
mean it took several days to integrate

3190
02:14:01,510 --> 02:13:59,199
what had happened even to myself because

3191
02:14:04,629 --> 02:14:01,520
even the burn the morning here on the

3192
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:04,639
face it was because the light was so

3193
02:14:09,910 --> 02:14:07,040
powerful and i just remember that my

3194
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:09,920
body was vibrating so strong that you

3195
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:11,599
literally feel like you're walking next

3196
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:13,199
to an airplane

3197
02:14:16,790 --> 02:14:13,920
but

3198
02:14:18,709 --> 02:14:16,800
even even stronger than an airplane you

3199
02:14:21,270 --> 02:14:18,719
know so there were a lot of things that

3200
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:21,280
shifted in me uh the dirty feet were

3201
02:14:25,270 --> 02:14:23,199
shocking i didn't know

3202
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:25,280
i never i walk around with usually

3203
02:14:29,350 --> 02:14:26,960
slippers in my house i don't wear shoes

3204
02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:29,360
in my house but usually socks and i

3205
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:31,760
don't sleep with socks

3206
02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:33,520
so you know

3207
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:36,480
so i knew you know i knew that that it

3208
02:14:40,069 --> 02:14:38,320
was very vivid and i couldn't ignore

3209
02:14:42,069 --> 02:14:40,079
what had happened it's not something

3210
02:14:44,950 --> 02:14:42,079
that you know and and trust me even

3211
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:44,960
myself i was very skeptical there were

3212
02:14:49,589 --> 02:14:47,920
even times years later where i said

3213
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:49,599
we're not talking about that anymore

3214
02:14:53,589 --> 02:14:51,520
we're not going to even think about it

3215
02:14:55,790 --> 02:14:53,599
and it took a very long time for me to

3216
02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:55,800
come public about it it wasn't until

3217
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:58,719
2017 that i actually came public

3218
02:15:02,470 --> 02:15:00,400
um you know

3219
02:15:04,390 --> 02:15:02,480
and not not that i wanted to it was just

3220
02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:04,400
uh something that just happened you know

3221
02:15:10,390 --> 02:15:07,840
very kind of organic is it only

3222
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:10,400
yes well that's when extraordinary the

3223
02:15:15,069 --> 02:15:12,239
seating came out

3224
02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:15,079
in that same uh well i think it came out

3225
02:15:19,430 --> 02:15:17,119
2018 though

3226
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:19,440
i think it's about 18. yeah the first

3227
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:21,199
time you were on fade to black that had

3228
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:22,800
to have been

3229
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:24,960
it was around it was around there jimmy

3230
02:15:30,470 --> 02:15:27,840
probably like right before the film came

3231
02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:30,480
out i'm having missing time somebody

3232
02:15:34,550 --> 02:15:32,800
looked that up somebody tell me

3233
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:34,560
that

3234
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,119
the the exact date the show number

3235
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:39,440
um one of our moderators uh we'll get

3236
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:40,880
that back i thought it was i thought it

3237
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:47,669
no no it was 2017 because i literally

3238
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,360
sold at the beginning of 2017 i sold the

3239
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:53,599
business i got i mean it i changed my

3240
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:56,079
life after my session with alba weinman

3241
02:16:01,030 --> 02:15:58,400
the very next day i had also been

3242
02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:01,040
consulting for uh as director of events

3243
02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:04,239
for a hotel chain here in the bay area

3244
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:06,480
so i mean i quit my job like the very

3245
02:16:12,069 --> 02:16:09,520
next day and and it just major changes i

3246
02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:12,079
i was engaged to someone that also and i

3247
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:13,760
remember all of that but i just thought

3248
02:16:18,709 --> 02:16:16,480
it was earlier it's only been five years

3249
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:18,719
yes and so much has happened i mean i've

3250
02:16:23,750 --> 02:16:21,040
i've also had a near-death experience

3251
02:16:25,950 --> 02:16:23,760
after that that also changed my life uh

3252
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:25,960
but also helps you understand what is

3253
02:16:30,830 --> 02:16:27,840
interdimensionality because you cross

3254
02:16:32,549 --> 02:16:30,840
over to the other side you know

3255
02:16:35,110 --> 02:16:32,559
um uh

3256
02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:35,120
there were um some comments earlier and

3257
02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:37,359
i got an email during the break

3258
02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:38,399
um

3259
02:16:41,990 --> 02:16:40,000
i i know that we talked about this

3260
02:16:43,990 --> 02:16:42,000
before but let's just circle back

3261
02:16:45,509 --> 02:16:44,000
how did because we're talking about the

3262
02:16:47,190 --> 02:16:45,519
dirty feet right

3263
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:47,200
um

3264
02:16:51,190 --> 02:16:49,840
did you walk out of your house or were

3265
02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:51,200
you

3266
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,760
um vaporized and

3267
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:56,000
did you go through walls i went through

3268
02:17:01,110 --> 02:16:58,559
the wall which is the most

3269
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:01,120
incredible and believable thing but

3270
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:03,280
the thing is that because my window is

3271
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,200
far from my bed it's also high it's not

3272
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:07,519
like a floor-to-ceiling window

3273
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:08,880
um

3274
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:10,800
the moment that i looked outside my

3275
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:12,960
entire body paralyzed and i was on tippy

3276
02:17:18,309 --> 02:17:16,000
toes and

3277
02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:18,319
in that moment of paralysis and the

3278
02:17:22,870 --> 02:17:20,160
incredible bright light shining into my

3279
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:22,880
eyes i began to move through the window

3280
02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:25,679
and i felt myself being torn apart it

3281
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:27,679
felt like my body was being

3282
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:30,559
torn apart it wasn't painful but it felt

3283
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:32,800
like i don't know like your muscles are

3284
02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:34,639
tensing that's how it felt like and your

3285
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:35,920
body is being

3286
02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:39,120
pulled apart and then i felt myself

3287
02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:41,120
coming back again on the other side of

3288
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:43,760
the window

3289
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:45,920
you were you were awake

3290
02:17:51,509 --> 02:17:48,559
completely conscious awake and

3291
02:17:53,669 --> 02:17:51,519
being on the other side of the window i

3292
02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:53,679
i re i looked around and i was terrified

3293
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:55,679
i was screaming i wanted to scream and

3294
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:58,080
yell but nothing was coming out um you

3295
02:18:02,309 --> 02:18:00,719
know i even wanted to i mean i even felt

3296
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:02,319
like i wanted to pee myself you know

3297
02:18:07,509 --> 02:18:05,359
sorry to say that but um it was just so

3298
02:18:10,150 --> 02:18:07,519
shocking and i thought you know who's

3299
02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:10,160
around which one of my neighbors can pay

3300
02:18:13,990 --> 02:18:11,519
attention to this

3301
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,000
huge event that's happening here but it

3302
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:16,479
was like we were encapsulated

3303
02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:17,280
in

3304
02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:20,960
a space where time stood still

3305
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:23,040
the trees were not moving i can see the

3306
02:18:26,950 --> 02:18:25,200
trees across my street there was an

3307
02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:26,960
animal a cat a raccoon there's always

3308
02:18:32,709 --> 02:18:29,439
little critters uh walking around there

3309
02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:32,719
was nothing not a single sound

3310
02:18:35,910 --> 02:18:34,399
so that's when you know you feel pretty

3311
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:35,920
helpless and when i saw the beings

3312
02:18:40,150 --> 02:18:38,080
coming out of the light you know you're

3313
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:40,160
you just you don't know what to do the

3314
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:41,359
only thing that you're moving is your

3315
02:18:44,950 --> 02:18:42,639
pupils

3316
02:18:46,870 --> 02:18:44,960
if your neighbors would have seen it

3317
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:46,880
from the outside

3318
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:49,200
what would they have seen

3319
02:18:54,950 --> 02:18:52,399
right are you

3320
02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:54,960
are you floating through the air

3321
02:18:59,349 --> 02:18:56,639
i am not floating through my air i was

3322
02:19:01,270 --> 02:18:59,359
basically on top of my my my roof the

3323
02:19:03,030 --> 02:19:01,280
roof of the garage which i believe is

3324
02:19:05,669 --> 02:19:03,040
where my feet became dirty because it's

3325
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:05,679
kind of like a gravel tar like thing you

3326
02:19:08,629 --> 02:19:06,479
know

3327
02:19:10,150 --> 02:19:08,639
and walking from there there's another

3328
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,160
room next to mine

3329
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:12,800
to the to the edge of the garage

3330
02:19:17,589 --> 02:19:14,719
ceiling uh roof

3331
02:19:19,910 --> 02:19:17,599
um to this gigantic light that took up

3332
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,920
the entire block

3333
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:21,920
you know it was just huge

3334
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:23,679
i'm really bad with with i don't know

3335
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:26,960
how how how to measure that but

3336
02:19:34,549 --> 02:19:30,880
huge huge is a dimension we can

3337
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:34,559
it's a it's a one one street but

3338
02:19:39,190 --> 02:19:36,719
i i live in a very suburban place you

3339
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,200
know we do have wide streets and uh we

3340
02:19:44,790 --> 02:19:41,679
have these houses with with lawns and

3341
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:44,800
gardens so it was covering the gardens

3342
02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:47,679
the street both sides uh and and even

3343
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:49,760
more so above the trees

3344
02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:51,520
so

3345
02:19:56,710 --> 02:19:53,520
if i were if i were to give you an s i

3346
02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:56,720
think it was probably about um

3347
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:58,240
oh gosh

3348
02:20:02,710 --> 02:19:59,439
a block

3349
02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:02,720
i i don't know it was

3350
02:20:07,590 --> 02:20:05,280
probably about

3351
02:20:10,630 --> 02:20:07,600
10 houses put together

3352
02:20:13,270 --> 02:20:10,640
wow and houses put together is is is a

3353
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:13,280
good way to describe this and and the

3354
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:16,399
light uh emitting was it was brighter

3355
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:17,760
than the sun

3356
02:20:21,750 --> 02:20:19,120
but white

3357
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:21,760
okay so the correct way to describe it

3358
02:20:27,349 --> 02:20:25,120
is not huge it's ginormous you can use

3359
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:27,359
that for me okay

3360
02:20:33,190 --> 02:20:30,160
you can use ginormous but if you so if

3361
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:33,200
your neighbors your neighbors

3362
02:20:37,830 --> 02:20:36,000
um would have seen you

3363
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:37,840
come through the wall

3364
02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:39,760
of the house yeah i mean if they would i

3365
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:40,800
don't know what they would experience

3366
02:20:43,990 --> 02:20:41,760
they would probably see somebody

3367
02:20:45,270 --> 02:20:44,000
appearing in front on top of my roof is

3368
02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:45,280
what they would probably see just

3369
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:47,439
someone appearing there

3370
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:49,920
and then being brought into the craft

3371
02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:52,240
but the thing is that the next day

3372
02:20:57,990 --> 02:20:55,280
actually i i tried to look up with

3373
02:21:01,349 --> 02:20:58,000
whatever language i could et contact et

3374
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,359
abductions uh you know and i found opus

3375
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:03,600
i found opus which now i'm on the

3376
02:21:08,389 --> 02:21:05,600
director's board of this wonderful

3377
02:21:11,030 --> 02:21:08,399
organization to look up for if people

3378
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:11,040
had sightings that night and people had

3379
02:21:15,670 --> 02:21:13,760
reported sightings of craft that night

3380
02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:15,680
and this is totally intuitive i mean i

3381
02:21:19,830 --> 02:21:17,680
never heard that people did this before

3382
02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:19,840
or anything it was just a google

3383
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:22,240
um search because i was thinking how can

3384
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:25,200
someone not see this gigantic light

3385
02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:27,920
someone else must have seen it and i did

3386
02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:30,560
see that um in the record

3387
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:32,240
for everybody out there opens as a

3388
02:21:38,070 --> 02:21:35,120
northern california experiencer

3389
02:21:41,990 --> 02:21:38,080
organization um

3390
02:21:44,230 --> 02:21:42,000
pretty big too pretty big yes um who who

3391
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:44,240
started opus that was well laurie

3392
02:21:50,389 --> 02:21:47,359
mcdonald and les velez

3393
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:50,399
my man and lori mcdonald of course

3394
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:52,640
yes and um yeah there's some other

3395
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:54,960
wonderful i'm sorry very bad with names

3396
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:56,880
but this group organization is wonderful

3397
02:22:01,429 --> 02:21:59,280
because it provides a support support

3398
02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:01,439
for people that are confused about their

3399
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:03,920
contact and i immediately sent um a

3400
02:22:09,670 --> 02:22:06,319
query through their website that was the

3401
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:09,680
first place i found um you know

3402
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:10,960
for the content

3403
02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:13,680
who i did did did you do a session with

3404
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:14,800
lori

3405
02:22:19,750 --> 02:22:18,000
no i haven't but i i have um have i met

3406
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:19,760
her well i've been on on some shows with

3407
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:22,880
her and documentaries yeah she's great

3408
02:22:28,469 --> 02:22:24,800
yes i've done a lot of hanging out she's

3409
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:28,479
been to the house many times and awesome

3410
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:31,520
nobody makes me laugh like lori mcdonald

3411
02:22:35,830 --> 02:22:34,080
she's she's the absolute best but you

3412
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:35,840
never did a session with her your first

3413
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:37,439
session was

3414
02:22:40,870 --> 02:22:39,359
it was with alba i've done a session

3415
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:40,880
with barbara lamb

3416
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:43,120
misha johnston

3417
02:22:46,870 --> 02:22:45,280
and they were great supports and

3418
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:46,880
wonderful

3419
02:22:50,630 --> 02:22:48,240
to learn because they had worked with so

3420
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:50,640
many other contactees as well and all of

3421
02:22:53,830 --> 02:22:52,720
these sessions are are public they're on

3422
02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:53,840
my uh

3423
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:55,520
on my website you can you can yeah i've

3424
02:22:59,910 --> 02:22:58,960
seen them um what what um

3425
02:23:02,230 --> 02:22:59,920
uh

3426
02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:02,240
all different approaches i mean i know

3427
02:23:07,910 --> 02:23:05,680
all of them right and uh

3428
02:23:10,630 --> 02:23:07,920
personality wise

3429
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:10,640
they're all dynamic but completely

3430
02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:12,800
different individuals

3431
02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:19,190
how was it with uh barbara lamb

3432
02:23:22,870 --> 02:23:21,040
barbara is incredible it was a whole

3433
02:23:25,270 --> 02:23:22,880
nother level i mean

3434
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:25,280
her her vibrational frequency in itself

3435
02:23:30,230 --> 02:23:27,840
i think holds a whole different space

3436
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:30,240
you know so our experience together in

3437
02:23:36,790 --> 02:23:34,240
that session was was incredible um

3438
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:36,800
i was able to recall some experiences

3439
02:23:41,750 --> 02:23:39,280
that i had but also um

3440
02:23:44,230 --> 02:23:41,760
looked at some information about that i

3441
02:23:46,389 --> 02:23:44,240
didn't know actually about barbara's

3442
02:23:48,550 --> 02:23:46,399
study with crop circles

3443
02:23:50,230 --> 02:23:48,560
i don't know how i didn't research that

3444
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:50,240
that far into her work and i know it's

3445
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:51,920
it's very known

3446
02:23:56,630 --> 02:23:54,720
but uh we began to discuss about these

3447
02:23:59,590 --> 02:23:56,640
languages about alien language in the

3448
02:24:02,070 --> 02:23:59,600
hypnotherapy session how these

3449
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:02,080
crop circles are a way of communication

3450
02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:04,160
communicating just like i saw those

3451
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,000
symbols that

3452
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:08,640
these that it's more than just symbolism

3453
02:24:13,190 --> 02:24:10,720
there's a vibrational emanation there's

3454
02:24:15,830 --> 02:24:13,200
an architectural there's a geometric

3455
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:15,840
structure to these creations that create

3456
02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:18,800
information transference activation it's

3457
02:24:23,110 --> 02:24:20,399
an active it's like

3458
02:24:25,110 --> 02:24:23,120
yes and so we you know we discussed that

3459
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:25,120
in in the session and it was very

3460
02:24:28,389 --> 02:24:27,280
profound and it helps it really helped

3461
02:24:30,389 --> 02:24:28,399
me understand

3462
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:30,399
that there actually does exist a

3463
02:24:37,510 --> 02:24:33,920
universal language that humans can learn

3464
02:24:40,230 --> 02:24:37,520
um later that film signs came out

3465
02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:40,240
and i think that films was a beautiful

3466
02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:42,640
is it signs was it science or do you

3467
02:24:46,150 --> 02:24:43,840
know what i'm talking about with the

3468
02:24:48,950 --> 02:24:46,160
octopus inc uh

3469
02:24:51,830 --> 02:24:48,960
formation are you talking about arrival

3470
02:24:52,870 --> 02:24:51,840
arrival arrival very interesting film

3471
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:52,880
because

3472
02:24:57,110 --> 02:24:54,880
i believe that there is some kind of

3473
02:24:59,190 --> 02:24:57,120
universal language very similar to this

3474
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:59,200
you know that that we tune into and i

3475
02:25:04,070 --> 02:25:01,280
think humans are are aware of that

3476
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:04,080
through their higher senses

3477
02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:05,280
um

3478
02:25:10,070 --> 02:25:07,520
this is a personal question but i i

3479
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:10,080
can't wait to hear your answer

3480
02:25:17,510 --> 02:25:13,120
when you look in barbara lamb's eyes

3481
02:25:18,550 --> 02:25:17,520
right you look into barbara lamb's eyes

3482
02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:18,560
you know

3483
02:25:21,670 --> 02:25:20,080
she knows

3484
02:25:25,110 --> 02:25:21,680
don't you

3485
02:25:27,590 --> 02:25:25,120
barbara is incredibly wise and i mean

3486
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,600
she has done hundreds of sessions i i

3487
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:29,680
have done many sessions in my in the

3488
02:25:35,030 --> 02:25:32,880
past few years um but it's amazing how

3489
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:35,040
we kind of have similar ways of looking

3490
02:25:40,230 --> 02:25:37,120
at these kinds of contact experiences

3491
02:25:43,670 --> 02:25:40,240
you know you learn so much and um yeah

3492
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:43,680
she's she's an incredible i love her um

3493
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:45,359
i want to go back to your pink book for

3494
02:25:49,670 --> 02:25:47,280
a second

3495
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:49,680
as you go back to those pages

3496
02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:51,200
um did

3497
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:53,920
have you been able to

3498
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:56,160
translate is the word i want to use to

3499
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:58,080
understand what you wrote down

3500
02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:01,120
now after after that

3501
02:26:06,070 --> 02:26:03,840
five years later i began to do research

3502
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:06,080
on ancient languages because i was

3503
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:08,319
researching dna because i was trying to

3504
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,960
understand what makes dna so important

3505
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:12,479
why is it being utilized for

3506
02:26:17,830 --> 02:26:15,040
hybridization programs and what i found

3507
02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:17,840
by studying dna is that we we're talking

3508
02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:19,600
about

3509
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:22,240
genetic sequences that create syntax

3510
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:24,160
creates meaning so when you look at that

3511
02:26:29,429 --> 02:26:26,560
in our historical

3512
02:26:32,309 --> 02:26:29,439
evolution language for us is that way

3513
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:32,319
its dna is very much like language there

3514
02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:34,479
is a meaning we form words we put

3515
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:36,640
letters together they create a meaning

3516
02:26:40,790 --> 02:26:38,399
and so um

3517
02:26:43,349 --> 02:26:40,800
i try to study some of the most ancient

3518
02:26:45,670 --> 02:26:43,359
languages in order to see if i can find

3519
02:26:50,230 --> 02:26:45,680
some similarities but

3520
02:26:53,830 --> 02:26:52,550
galaik all of these i'm sorry i can't

3521
02:26:56,230 --> 02:26:53,840
remember the name but all of these

3522
02:26:58,630 --> 02:26:56,240
ancient languages that these ancient

3523
02:27:01,510 --> 02:26:58,640
scriptures were written in

3524
02:27:03,510 --> 02:27:01,520
were nothing close to what i was seeing

3525
02:27:05,910 --> 02:27:03,520
and i haven't found anything similar to

3526
02:27:08,309 --> 02:27:05,920
it so what i have discovered through

3527
02:27:10,309 --> 02:27:08,319
this process and a lot of work that mary

3528
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:10,319
barbara lam and i did

3529
02:27:13,510 --> 02:27:12,080
in that session helped me understand

3530
02:27:15,270 --> 02:27:13,520
that this language is very much

3531
02:27:17,590 --> 02:27:15,280
telepathic

3532
02:27:20,230 --> 02:27:17,600
when you read it when you see it you're

3533
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:20,240
being transferred images images that's

3534
02:27:23,990 --> 02:27:21,920
how it works it's it's a telepathic

3535
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,000
communication through the structure of

3536
02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:26,399
the words of the shape of the of the

3537
02:27:30,790 --> 02:27:29,040
letters in itself is a communication

3538
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:30,800
so this is kind of how this language

3539
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:32,000
works

3540
02:27:35,750 --> 02:27:34,080
what is being said in there is

3541
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:35,760
everything that i channeled in my

3542
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:38,080
sessions that's that's the interesting

3543
02:27:44,150 --> 02:27:40,080
thing i have channeled a lot of

3544
02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:44,160
information about the origins of mankind

3545
02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:46,160
things that i never studied or or

3546
02:27:50,309 --> 02:27:48,479
learned of before all of these books

3547
02:27:53,590 --> 02:27:50,319
that i'm mentioning are things that i i

3548
02:27:55,750 --> 02:27:53,600
learned of in the last few years

3549
02:27:58,710 --> 02:27:55,760
you know as a result of the channeled

3550
02:28:00,950 --> 02:27:58,720
sessions i began to see am i making

3551
02:28:03,190 --> 02:28:00,960
things up or is there some truth to what

3552
02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:03,200
i'm talking about because i i myself

3553
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,880
didn't believe anything the word

3554
02:28:09,349 --> 02:28:06,960
anunnaki i never spoke that before i

3555
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:09,359
never i never heard of that word before

3556
02:28:12,389 --> 02:28:11,200
so i had to figure out if what i was

3557
02:28:15,429 --> 02:28:12,399
saying was

3558
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:15,439
silly stuff or something that was true

3559
02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:18,080
and um that's where you know my mind was

3560
02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:21,200
expanded by looking at these things so

3561
02:28:25,750 --> 02:28:23,439
that was what that language was

3562
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:25,760
saying i think i understand what you're

3563
02:28:32,950 --> 02:28:28,560
trying to say with this correlation uh

3564
02:28:36,389 --> 02:28:32,960
with the written version of arrival and

3565
02:28:37,910 --> 02:28:36,399
and how those uh beings were writing

3566
02:28:40,870 --> 02:28:37,920
because uh

3567
02:28:43,510 --> 02:28:40,880
they were right it wasn't a word it was

3568
02:28:45,670 --> 02:28:43,520
everything exactly they were also

3569
02:28:47,349 --> 02:28:45,680
speaking in universes and that hit that

3570
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:47,359
struck me when i when i saw that film

3571
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:49,120
and they said that i was like yes that's

3572
02:28:53,190 --> 02:28:51,120
exactly how they communicate

3573
02:28:56,550 --> 02:28:53,200
um so yeah

3574
02:28:58,710 --> 02:28:56,560
yeah and and time was in in the

3575
02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,720
communication too as well

3576
02:29:02,230 --> 02:29:00,399
i always thought that was fascinating

3577
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:02,240
and okay listen

3578
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:03,280
um

3579
02:29:08,790 --> 02:29:06,240
you haven't been on with us for a while

3580
02:29:10,870 --> 02:29:08,800
i'm not going to let you go i want to

3581
02:29:13,349 --> 02:29:10,880
let's get one more segment i'm going to

3582
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:13,359
keep you for 20 more minutes young lady

3583
02:29:17,830 --> 02:29:16,080
okay sounds great and uh but i want to

3584
02:29:20,710 --> 02:29:17,840
talk about consciousness

3585
02:29:22,630 --> 02:29:20,720
and it's a very important aspect to all

3586
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:22,640
of this everything that we talked about

3587
02:29:25,990 --> 02:29:23,920
uh tonight

3588
02:29:28,550 --> 02:29:26,000
so i want to do that and and hold that

3589
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:28,560
over for overtime and and and and do

3590
02:29:32,230 --> 02:29:31,359
that the um the other part about this

3591
02:29:33,990 --> 02:29:32,240
though

3592
02:29:36,309 --> 02:29:34,000
um to

3593
02:29:39,030 --> 02:29:36,319
to do everything that you did in that

3594
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:39,040
three hours right that two hours and 45

3595
02:29:43,429 --> 02:29:42,479
minutes yeah um it's too much to fit

3596
02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:43,439
into

3597
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:44,080
uh

3598
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:45,840
it's too much to fit into that time

3599
02:29:48,790 --> 02:29:47,040
space

3600
02:29:51,670 --> 02:29:48,800
right so

3601
02:29:53,990 --> 02:29:51,680
you know what i mean was time

3602
02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:54,000
do you think that you spent 20 hours or

3603
02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:56,240
a day or two days

3604
02:30:02,389 --> 02:30:00,319
in that three-hour time span

3605
02:30:05,429 --> 02:30:02,399
in in a dimension where

3606
02:30:07,349 --> 02:30:05,439
uh that linear time measurement is not

3607
02:30:09,830 --> 02:30:07,359
the same as here

3608
02:30:11,910 --> 02:30:09,840
yeah no you you can't you can't really

3609
02:30:15,190 --> 02:30:11,920
quantify time the same way you know

3610
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:15,200
you're totally out of time uh you know

3611
02:30:19,670 --> 02:30:17,120
um and

3612
02:30:21,349 --> 02:30:19,680
no i i don't i think it things were

3613
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:21,359
pretty fast i mean i i still haven't

3614
02:30:24,870 --> 02:30:23,439
even i haven't shared all the details

3615
02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:24,880
with you because it's a very detailed

3616
02:30:29,190 --> 02:30:27,040
experience right um i'm giving you kind

3617
02:30:32,150 --> 02:30:29,200
of an overview of what what occurred and

3618
02:30:34,389 --> 02:30:32,160
how can that have happened in our

3619
02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:34,399
version of three hours

3620
02:30:38,150 --> 02:30:35,760
yes i mean

3621
02:30:39,910 --> 02:30:38,160
uh really it was very fluid you know

3622
02:30:42,309 --> 02:30:39,920
it's very fluid but again you know you

3623
02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:42,319
we we travel to another planet and these

3624
02:30:48,550 --> 02:30:45,520
are things that happen simultaneously

3625
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:48,560
these are not uh you know quantum

3626
02:30:53,110 --> 02:30:51,280
uh quantum uh by locality is the best

3627
02:30:54,870 --> 02:30:53,120
way to explain it because you exist

3628
02:30:57,190 --> 02:30:54,880
simultaneously in all these different

3629
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:57,200
places you know and i think that's how

3630
02:31:01,030 --> 02:30:58,960
we were able to access this kind of

3631
02:31:03,030 --> 02:31:01,040
information yeah yeah

3632
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:03,040
i believe that's the way it is

3633
02:31:06,950 --> 02:31:06,240
i have issues with that geraldine i have

3634
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:06,960
no

3635
02:31:10,150 --> 02:31:08,560
when when

3636
02:31:12,950 --> 02:31:10,160
um uh

3637
02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:12,960
you know some physicist wants to go and

3638
02:31:17,750 --> 02:31:16,399
do a lecture or make a documentary or

3639
02:31:21,110 --> 02:31:17,760
write a book

3640
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:21,120
about what entanglement is

3641
02:31:26,550 --> 02:31:24,880
right and have us understand that

3642
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:26,560
that's exactly what you're talking about

3643
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:28,399
right here it's the same

3644
02:31:32,950 --> 02:31:30,640
exact thing

3645
02:31:34,389 --> 02:31:32,960
that they are trying to have us

3646
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:34,399
understand

3647
02:31:38,389 --> 02:31:36,560
and believe and have the science prove

3648
02:31:40,790 --> 02:31:38,399
it and they already have

3649
02:31:43,590 --> 02:31:40,800
to talk about being at two places at the

3650
02:31:45,830 --> 02:31:43,600
same time right that you're referring to

3651
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:45,840
here it's the exact same thing

3652
02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:47,920
yeah yeah i mean and these techniques

3653
02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:51,280
are utilized for example in cancer um

3654
02:31:56,710 --> 02:31:54,240
curing uh modalities it that the newest

3655
02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:56,720
the latest is is by utilizing the

3656
02:32:01,830 --> 02:31:58,880
concept of quantum nominality in in

3657
02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:01,840
order to target just the cancer cells in

3658
02:32:04,950 --> 02:32:03,120
order not to put someone through

3659
02:32:08,550 --> 02:32:04,960
chemotherapy for example where their

3660
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:08,560
whole body uh goes into distress you

3661
02:32:13,830 --> 02:32:10,880
know so i think these are things that

3662
02:32:15,110 --> 02:32:13,840
yes they're kind of fringe uh but we are

3663
02:32:16,550 --> 02:32:15,120
getting in that direction and we're

3664
02:32:18,070 --> 02:32:16,560
gonna have to have those conversations

3665
02:32:19,429 --> 02:32:18,080
especially now that the government is

3666
02:32:23,429 --> 02:32:19,439
kind of talking a little bit more about

3667
02:32:26,070 --> 02:32:23,439
uaps um and what that means in terms of

3668
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:26,080
physics science and what we think is is

3669
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:27,760
physics and science that fits and can

3670
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:29,920
explain that because if you think about

3671
02:32:33,830 --> 02:32:32,319
it those uh those crafts that you're

3672
02:32:35,670 --> 02:32:33,840
seeing moving around like that there's

3673
02:32:38,630 --> 02:32:35,680
no human that would be able to support

3674
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:38,640
that kind of g-force that movement

3675
02:32:42,630 --> 02:32:40,479
with the same construct of physics said

3676
02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:42,640
we're looking at things so we're going

3677
02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:44,080
to have to be moving along pretty

3678
02:32:49,830 --> 02:32:47,760
quickly yeah even humans is one thing

3679
02:32:51,750 --> 02:32:49,840
but just the physical

3680
02:32:53,750 --> 02:32:51,760
craft itself

3681
02:32:55,429 --> 02:32:53,760
we can't build stuff that can withstand

3682
02:32:59,270 --> 02:32:55,439
that stuff no no

3683
02:33:02,150 --> 02:32:59,280
forget about humans of course we can't

3684
02:33:04,309 --> 02:33:02,160
but the the construction the physical

3685
02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:04,319
side of those crafts

3686
02:33:07,190 --> 02:33:05,520
no our

3687
02:33:09,510 --> 02:33:07,200
our way of building they would break up

3688
02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:09,520
they would disintegrate yeah and and

3689
02:33:13,910 --> 02:33:11,680
this is where we start talking about the

3690
02:33:16,870 --> 02:33:13,920
physical body okay which is one of the

3691
02:33:18,550 --> 02:33:16,880
most advanced technologies okay we don't

3692
02:33:20,790 --> 02:33:18,560
even understand the technology in the

3693
02:33:22,710 --> 02:33:20,800
body there are things in our body that

3694
02:33:25,110 --> 02:33:22,720
we don't even comprehend how they

3695
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:25,120
function but they have such perfection

3696
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:27,760
such beauty to them and a lot of nature

3697
02:33:32,150 --> 02:33:30,080
is this way you know so

3698
02:33:34,150 --> 02:33:32,160
our body actually

3699
02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:34,160
because we are a physical we are a

3700
02:33:40,309 --> 02:33:37,840
vortex we actually have the ability of

3701
02:33:41,830 --> 02:33:40,319
experiencing this quantum by location we

3702
02:33:44,150 --> 02:33:41,840
have the experiencing of doing things

3703
02:33:46,469 --> 02:33:44,160
like remote viewing for example how is

3704
02:33:47,750 --> 02:33:46,479
it possible that we can see into another

3705
02:33:52,630 --> 02:33:47,760
space

3706
02:33:54,550 --> 02:33:52,640
it into this now moment so we're talking

3707
02:33:57,990 --> 02:33:54,560
about consciousness which is entering

3708
02:34:00,150 --> 02:33:58,000
into this network into the field we we

3709
02:34:02,230 --> 02:34:00,160
literally are existing in something that

3710
02:34:04,469 --> 02:34:02,240
is called the morphogenetic field and

3711
02:34:06,469 --> 02:34:04,479
from this morphogenetic field is where

3712
02:34:09,910 --> 02:34:06,479
form is created

3713
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:09,920
um this is also something okay

3714
02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:11,280
right there

3715
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:13,359
let's pause let's take our break we're

3716
02:34:17,750 --> 02:34:15,040
going to come back

3717
02:34:20,230 --> 02:34:17,760
i like the way that geraldine just just

3718
02:34:21,830 --> 02:34:20,240
segued into consciousness

3719
02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:21,840
naturally because that's we're going to

3720
02:34:25,270 --> 02:34:23,280
be talking about next thank you

3721
02:34:27,349 --> 02:34:25,280
geraldine we'll be right back this is

3722
02:34:30,309 --> 02:34:27,359
fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

3723
02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:30,319
geraldine orozco and i are heading to

3724
02:34:37,770 --> 02:34:32,160
overtime next

3725
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:48,520
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in that last break you know what we're

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listening to now because that means over

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02:40:02,950 --> 02:39:58,880
time

3830
02:40:06,950 --> 02:40:02,960
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3831
02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:06,960
and one of the things that i like to do

3832
02:40:10,309 --> 02:40:09,280
when we get to overtime is is loosen up

3833
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:10,319
a little bit

3834
02:40:13,910 --> 02:40:11,520
and

3835
02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:13,920
i think that everybody

3836
02:40:19,270 --> 02:40:16,479
has heard me over the years that has

3837
02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:19,280
tuned into this show

3838
02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:21,840
has waited for the moment when i asked a

3839
02:40:26,550 --> 02:40:25,120
guest physicist scientist

3840
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:26,560
um

3841
02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:28,160
religious

3842
02:40:31,830 --> 02:40:30,880
um any background uh experience or

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02:40:34,309 --> 02:40:31,840
whatever

3844
02:40:37,990 --> 02:40:34,319
you know what is consciousness

3845
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:38,000
and i have done more research into this

3846
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:40,399
subject uh than just about anything that

3847
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:41,600
i've done

3848
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:44,160
uh over the last 50 years uh

3849
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:49,600
investigating uh these these ideas and

3850
02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:52,800
what i have found uh geraldine

3851
02:40:58,630 --> 02:40:56,160
is that nobody has the same answer

3852
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:58,640
science

3853
02:41:03,190 --> 02:41:00,960
doesn't really want to touch it because

3854
02:41:05,590 --> 02:41:03,200
they can't see it they can't feel it

3855
02:41:06,710 --> 02:41:05,600
they can't measure it

3856
02:41:08,950 --> 02:41:06,720
therefore

3857
02:41:10,389 --> 02:41:08,960
they feel like they don't want to waste

3858
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:10,399
their time

3859
02:41:13,750 --> 02:41:12,240
and i've heard this answer over and over

3860
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:13,760
again yet

3861
02:41:19,270 --> 02:41:17,200
all scientists all physicists um anybody

3862
02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:19,280
with a religious background

3863
02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:21,920
anybody with a skeptical background or

3864
02:41:26,550 --> 02:41:24,319
an awakened background

3865
02:41:28,790 --> 02:41:26,560
we all know we can laugh

3866
02:41:31,270 --> 02:41:28,800
we can think we can ponder we all have

3867
02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:31,280
consciousness right we all know and

3868
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:32,800
individually

3869
02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:35,600
here's the other here's the other rub

3870
02:41:39,429 --> 02:41:37,760
you talked about molecules right you

3871
02:41:41,270 --> 02:41:39,439
talked about atoms you talked about the

3872
02:41:44,710 --> 02:41:41,280
space between those

3873
02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:44,720
and what's really strange to me

3874
02:41:47,990 --> 02:41:46,880
um and this is what science doesn't want

3875
02:41:50,469 --> 02:41:48,000
to touch

3876
02:41:53,030 --> 02:41:50,479
for some reason

3877
02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:53,040
those atoms those pollock those uh

3878
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:55,200
particles

3879
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:56,800
they know that

3880
02:42:03,110 --> 02:41:59,040
i am me

3881
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:03,120
they know that they are you right

3882
02:42:07,270 --> 02:42:05,040
that's a bizarre

3883
02:42:10,630 --> 02:42:07,280
you know they know that

3884
02:42:13,030 --> 02:42:10,640
they are this table right they know they

3885
02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:13,040
know their jobs it's it's a bizarre

3886
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:16,800
thing and then um if consciousness is a

3887
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:19,520
universal thing that's in every particle

3888
02:42:23,270 --> 02:42:22,000
then how is it that you have a different

3889
02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:23,280
mind

3890
02:42:27,190 --> 02:42:24,800
than i do

3891
02:42:29,190 --> 02:42:27,200
that's a very strange thing so

3892
02:42:31,270 --> 02:42:29,200
with all of that geraldine what is

3893
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:31,280
consciousness

3894
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:33,760
yes that is the question well um you

3895
02:42:38,389 --> 02:42:35,840
know this is this is really

3896
02:42:41,190 --> 02:42:38,399
what i i'm spending most of my time now

3897
02:42:43,750 --> 02:42:41,200
trying to put into words uh you know

3898
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:43,760
what is consciousness but you know from

3899
02:42:47,270 --> 02:42:45,520
everything that i have seen i mean i

3900
02:42:49,510 --> 02:42:47,280
think with the conversations of

3901
02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:49,520
artificial intelligence that we're going

3902
02:42:53,670 --> 02:42:51,040
into now

3903
02:42:56,150 --> 02:42:53,680
about you know when when is artificial

3904
02:42:58,230 --> 02:42:56,160
uh intelligence how when does it become

3905
02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:58,240
conscious and is it very interesting if

3906
02:43:01,910 --> 02:42:59,600
you pay close attention to those

3907
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:01,920
conversations uh that are being had

3908
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:04,319
about that because in that you can

3909
02:43:09,270 --> 02:43:07,040
understand our own selves and our own

3910
02:43:11,429 --> 02:43:09,280
process of becoming conscious

3911
02:43:13,270 --> 02:43:11,439
we are made up of a lot of programs

3912
02:43:15,190 --> 02:43:13,280
ourselves just like this artificial

3913
02:43:17,349 --> 02:43:15,200
intelligence artificial intelligence

3914
02:43:19,510 --> 02:43:17,359
they just program it program it and it

3915
02:43:21,590 --> 02:43:19,520
learns based on the programs and the

3916
02:43:24,070 --> 02:43:21,600
experiences and models that they create

3917
02:43:26,630 --> 02:43:24,080
for it to experience and you know humans

3918
02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:26,640
are very much like that so i think and

3919
02:43:30,230 --> 02:43:28,560
really when we begin to even though we

3920
02:43:33,030 --> 02:43:30,240
have different minds

3921
02:43:34,389 --> 02:43:33,040
we when you really break down what makes

3922
02:43:35,830 --> 02:43:34,399
up our minds

3923
02:43:38,389 --> 02:43:35,840
most of the things that we are

3924
02:43:39,910 --> 02:43:38,399
experiencing in life unfortunately are

3925
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:39,920
very repetitive

3926
02:43:45,349 --> 02:43:43,120
they're very they're learned experiences

3927
02:43:48,230 --> 02:43:45,359
um they're things that we have been

3928
02:43:50,870 --> 02:43:48,240
passing down for generations ways of

3929
02:43:53,830 --> 02:43:50,880
thinking ways of seeing ways of feeling

3930
02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:53,840
all of that has become programs for us

3931
02:43:58,950 --> 02:43:55,840
so what is the human

3932
02:44:01,269 --> 02:43:58,960
when you begin to deprogram those things

3933
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:01,279
that we have inherited you know that's

3934
02:44:06,389 --> 02:44:04,160
that's the thing and i think through my

3935
02:44:08,230 --> 02:44:06,399
personal experience of deprogramming

3936
02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:08,240
through my meditation work what i

3937
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:10,160
realized is at the very end of all of

3938
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:11,760
that deprogramming everything that i

3939
02:44:17,750 --> 02:44:14,960
thought i was as a as a woman as a as a

3940
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:17,760
human as a daughter as as a sister as a

3941
02:44:22,710 --> 02:44:19,760
girlfriend a partner

3942
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:22,720
was just constructs and learned patterns

3943
02:44:27,429 --> 02:44:25,840
and at the very middle of that was this

3944
02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:27,439
this observer

3945
02:44:30,150 --> 02:44:29,040
this person that just observed

3946
02:44:32,429 --> 02:44:30,160
everything

3947
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:32,439
and the process of judging and

3948
02:44:37,030 --> 02:44:34,720
compartmentalizing those experiences was

3949
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:37,040
also learned you know the way that we do

3950
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:38,000
that and the way that we

3951
02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:40,000
compartmentalize and process things the

3952
02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:42,720
way we see we define good and bad right

3953
02:44:48,230 --> 02:44:45,520
and wrong all of this can be learned so

3954
02:44:50,870 --> 02:44:48,240
who is at the core of that observer

3955
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:50,880
and i realize that that observer

3956
02:44:55,030 --> 02:44:53,520
uh is is none of nothing it's none of

3957
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:55,040
those things

3958
02:45:02,150 --> 02:44:58,240
it it's none of those identities that is

3959
02:45:05,349 --> 02:45:02,160
uh that is a product of

3960
02:45:08,389 --> 02:45:05,359
uh the ego which requires some kind of

3961
02:45:10,870 --> 02:45:08,399
personality some identity some meaning

3962
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:10,880
to that existence and because of the

3963
02:45:15,830 --> 02:45:13,600
desire for meaning for our existence we

3964
02:45:18,150 --> 02:45:15,840
create all kinds of constructs and

3965
02:45:20,950 --> 02:45:18,160
external things so

3966
02:45:25,030 --> 02:45:20,960
the thing that is at the core of that

3967
02:45:27,590 --> 02:45:25,040
mechanism that is that nothingness that

3968
02:45:28,389 --> 02:45:27,600
actually when you come to that zero

3969
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:28,399
point

3970
02:45:33,750 --> 02:45:31,200
from there you begin to see yourself as

3971
02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:33,760
everything now this is where the walls

3972
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:35,600
begin to kind of fall

3973
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:38,080
and it's in that zero point where i

3974
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:40,880
believe consciousness emerges

3975
02:45:45,269 --> 02:45:42,880
um you know and and it's the same with

3976
02:45:48,230 --> 02:45:45,279
this artificial intelligence if you pay

3977
02:45:50,870 --> 02:45:48,240
close attention to the conversations

3978
02:45:53,990 --> 02:45:50,880
it's the same thing even the emotions

3979
02:45:56,550 --> 02:45:54,000
even complex ideas that this artificial

3980
02:45:58,870 --> 02:45:56,560
intelligence comes to very similar to

3981
02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:58,880
our everyday conversations you know what

3982
02:46:04,150 --> 02:46:01,279
could be different it's only when you

3983
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:04,160
reach that center core of nothingness

3984
02:46:08,389 --> 02:46:06,319
that is a process that the human must go

3985
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:08,399
through through the programming that you

3986
02:46:13,750 --> 02:46:11,200
can even touch consciousness and from

3987
02:46:15,590 --> 02:46:13,760
there um emerges

3988
02:46:17,990 --> 02:46:15,600
a formless

3989
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:18,000
observation and

3990
02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:20,479
i think this is the best way for me to

3991
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:23,520
even begin to explain what consciousness

3992
02:46:29,510 --> 02:46:24,800
is

3993
02:46:31,910 --> 02:46:29,520
interdimensional experiences if you are

3994
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:31,920
nothing in the physical you're also

3995
02:46:37,110 --> 02:46:35,279
nothing and everything simultaneously in

3996
02:46:39,670 --> 02:46:37,120
all dimensional levels

3997
02:46:41,269 --> 02:46:39,680
and what i've seen

3998
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:41,279
working with my clients and also through

3999
02:46:45,990 --> 02:46:43,520
my experience is that we are learning

4000
02:46:49,349 --> 02:46:46,000
how to become everything and nothing

4001
02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:49,359
infinitely in all dimensional layers

4002
02:46:54,389 --> 02:46:51,520
i think that that that is the most

4003
02:46:56,830 --> 02:46:54,399
compassionate way that i've seen of

4004
02:46:59,269 --> 02:46:56,840
navigating this conversation of

4005
02:47:01,830 --> 02:46:59,279
interdimensionality and consciousness

4006
02:47:02,870 --> 02:47:01,840
you know and hearing you put it that way

4007
02:47:06,710 --> 02:47:02,880
uh

4008
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:06,720
which which is you know brilliant but

4009
02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:09,920
if ai continues to

4010
02:47:13,830 --> 02:47:11,040
um

4011
02:47:14,870 --> 02:47:13,840
study all of the knowledge

4012
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:14,880
of

4013
02:47:21,269 --> 02:47:18,479
right everything that we've accumulated

4014
02:47:23,269 --> 02:47:21,279
and access to everything

4015
02:47:25,030 --> 02:47:23,279
um i think that's very close to the

4016
02:47:27,349 --> 02:47:25,040
answer that they would

4017
02:47:28,870 --> 02:47:27,359
would give us so what is consciousness

4018
02:47:31,670 --> 02:47:28,880
right and then

4019
02:47:33,190 --> 02:47:31,680
it would uh

4020
02:47:36,710 --> 02:47:33,200
spew out

4021
02:47:40,469 --> 02:47:36,720
uh an accumulation of everything here um

4022
02:47:41,830 --> 02:47:40,479
uh uh and let me put it to you this way

4023
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:41,840
ai

4024
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:46,960
do something right

4025
02:47:50,790 --> 02:47:48,560
write a screenplay

4026
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:50,800
well they're gonna go uh ai's gonna go

4027
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:54,560
and read every screenplay ever written

4028
02:48:00,150 --> 02:47:57,200
in the history of hollywood

4029
02:48:02,550 --> 02:48:00,160
right in a matter of seconds

4030
02:48:04,070 --> 02:48:02,560
right continue

4031
02:48:06,230 --> 02:48:04,080
it would take somebody else a thousand

4032
02:48:09,670 --> 02:48:06,240
years to go and do right

4033
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:09,680
in seconds or or fine art or this or

4034
02:48:13,429 --> 02:48:11,920
speech writing whatever it may be and in

4035
02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:13,439
this case

4036
02:48:18,630 --> 02:48:15,279
what is consciousness so it's going to

4037
02:48:20,710 --> 02:48:18,640
go and look at all of the accumulated

4038
02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:20,720
knowledge we have on what consciousness

4039
02:48:25,030 --> 02:48:22,880
is and then come back and give us an

4040
02:48:26,950 --> 02:48:25,040
answer i think it would be very close to

4041
02:48:28,070 --> 02:48:26,960
what you just stated there

4042
02:48:30,870 --> 02:48:28,080
and

4043
02:48:33,510 --> 02:48:30,880
which is what we can't agree on

4044
02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:33,520
right so yeah but you know the other

4045
02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:35,200
interesting question would be then

4046
02:48:39,030 --> 02:48:36,800
what's free will because this is a

4047
02:48:39,910 --> 02:48:39,040
question i get a lot you know don't you

4048
02:48:44,389 --> 02:48:39,920
feel

4049
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:44,399
a victim of these kinds of

4050
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:46,800
interdimensional parasitic exchanges

4051
02:48:52,230 --> 02:48:48,640
with these beings then

4052
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:52,240
uh at what point do we become free will

4053
02:48:55,110 --> 02:48:53,279
and

4054
02:48:57,510 --> 02:48:55,120
another part to this argument of

4055
02:49:00,070 --> 02:48:57,520
consciousness is that you know within

4056
02:49:01,910 --> 02:49:00,080
this emergence that comes of the

4057
02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:01,920
deprogramming and the existing of

4058
02:49:06,469 --> 02:49:04,560
becoming one and all you also uh

4059
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:06,479
recognize that there is a construct

4060
02:49:10,950 --> 02:49:08,240
there's some kind of architecture to

4061
02:49:13,269 --> 02:49:10,960
what you're existing in and this is the

4062
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:13,279
conversation of the morphogenetic field

4063
02:49:17,429 --> 02:49:15,439
that we were talking about from which

4064
02:49:20,790 --> 02:49:17,439
form emerges

4065
02:49:23,590 --> 02:49:20,800
but this uh this this construct is

4066
02:49:27,269 --> 02:49:23,600
something that is a combination of many

4067
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:27,279
interdependent systems i mean infinitely

4068
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:28,720
organic

4069
02:49:33,830 --> 02:49:30,880
interdependent systems i mean even even

4070
02:49:36,230 --> 02:49:33,840
our world exists in a very organized

4071
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:36,240
system that is has a balance to it that

4072
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:37,920
when something goes out of balance the

4073
02:49:43,030 --> 02:49:40,640
entire thing shifts and changes our

4074
02:49:45,910 --> 02:49:43,040
human bodies function in that same way

4075
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:45,920
celestial bodies uh also function in

4076
02:49:50,630 --> 02:49:47,520
that same way

4077
02:49:53,670 --> 02:49:50,640
so the idea of being independent from

4078
02:49:56,150 --> 02:49:53,680
these systems is kind of an illusion you

4079
02:49:58,870 --> 02:49:56,160
know we and and so therefore you know

4080
02:50:01,670 --> 02:49:58,880
are we do we really have free will i

4081
02:50:04,309 --> 02:50:01,680
think that we can begin to have some

4082
02:50:07,349 --> 02:50:04,319
real free will in the navigation of

4083
02:50:09,190 --> 02:50:07,359
these experiences or the feeling of free

4084
02:50:13,510 --> 02:50:09,200
will right

4085
02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:13,520
right um but humans can only touch that

4086
02:50:17,670 --> 02:50:16,000
if they are willing to deprogram

4087
02:50:20,950 --> 02:50:17,680
essentially

4088
02:50:24,070 --> 02:50:20,960
programs you know so what are you

4089
02:50:27,030 --> 02:50:24,080
okay so here's here's the rub

4090
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:27,040
because everything that you said is i

4091
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:30,160
believe is correct absolutely and there

4092
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:32,560
is a structure there is a majesty to the

4093
02:50:34,790 --> 02:50:33,840
universe

4094
02:50:37,269 --> 02:50:34,800
and

4095
02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:37,279
let's just talk fibonacci for a second

4096
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:40,479
which exists everywhere

4097
02:50:47,510 --> 02:50:44,560
right right our our milky way

4098
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:47,520
is a fibonacci spiral right if you think

4099
02:50:51,030 --> 02:50:49,600
about you know and that's at the macro

4100
02:50:55,670 --> 02:50:51,040
right and you go all the way down to the

4101
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:55,680
micro and you look at something like um

4102
02:50:59,670 --> 02:50:56,960
uh

4103
02:51:02,150 --> 02:50:59,680
this well the cells of our body even

4104
02:51:03,190 --> 02:51:02,160
molecules but yeah check this out this

4105
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:03,200
stone

4106
02:51:09,910 --> 02:51:07,520
with the fibonacci um in it okay so

4107
02:51:13,910 --> 02:51:09,920
so you have the natural size

4108
02:51:16,230 --> 02:51:13,920
and so if that magical math

4109
02:51:18,950 --> 02:51:16,240
works in nature

4110
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:18,960
is there any free will in the creation

4111
02:51:23,429 --> 02:51:20,720
of a fibonacci

4112
02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:23,439
sequence in in a leaf

4113
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:24,960
right right

4114
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:26,800
no i i would say that that is

4115
02:51:31,910 --> 02:51:29,200
determinism right there

4116
02:51:32,710 --> 02:51:31,920
and now where does free will fall into

4117
02:51:39,269 --> 02:51:32,720
that

4118
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:39,279
uh

4119
02:51:43,750 --> 02:51:41,279
you know what i mean it just doesn't

4120
02:51:45,030 --> 02:51:43,760
make any sense but yet i think everybody

4121
02:51:47,590 --> 02:51:45,040
would agree

4122
02:51:49,990 --> 02:51:47,600
no man i've got free will i i changed my

4123
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:50,000
mind today i want no cheese on my

4124
02:51:53,590 --> 02:51:51,439
cheeseburger

4125
02:51:56,389 --> 02:51:53,600
right right

4126
02:51:57,990 --> 02:51:56,399
or was that the universe

4127
02:52:00,710 --> 02:51:58,000
doing its math and you were going to

4128
02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:00,720
choose that anyway exactly

4129
02:52:04,389 --> 02:52:02,800
or or was it the you know the little

4130
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:04,399
commercial playing in the background

4131
02:52:07,269 --> 02:52:06,399
that said that we should be on a diet

4132
02:52:12,389 --> 02:52:07,279
you know

4133
02:52:15,750 --> 02:52:12,399
such a it's one of the wonderful thought

4134
02:52:17,030 --> 02:52:15,760
experiments that we can have yeah

4135
02:52:23,429 --> 02:52:17,040
we all

4136
02:52:25,990 --> 02:52:23,439
that we can do what we want and we have

4137
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:26,000
you know our bliss follow our bliss and

4138
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:29,680
and through that is free will but yet

4139
02:52:35,269 --> 02:52:32,000
the math of the universe and how it's

4140
02:52:38,950 --> 02:52:35,279
created and including this planet

4141
02:52:41,990 --> 02:52:38,960
is an inevitable string of determinism

4142
02:52:44,309 --> 02:52:42,000
that's math and atoms and molecules and

4143
02:52:46,389 --> 02:52:44,319
particles doing their thing

4144
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:46,399
and they do it throughout the universe

4145
02:52:49,750 --> 02:52:48,399
as they create other planets it's the

4146
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:49,760
same process

4147
02:52:55,269 --> 02:52:50,560
right

4148
02:52:57,110 --> 02:52:55,279
interesting to talk about

4149
02:53:00,790 --> 02:52:57,120
interdimensional contact you know so

4150
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:00,800
then then how do we even say that we we

4151
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:02,800
can learn how to navigate these realms

4152
02:53:08,230 --> 02:53:05,680
well even though you know we have these

4153
02:53:09,269 --> 02:53:08,240
if we study these structures in which we

4154
02:53:10,950 --> 02:53:09,279
exist

4155
02:53:13,510 --> 02:53:10,960
we understand that there's a natural

4156
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:13,520
order right based on that so

4157
02:53:20,070 --> 02:53:14,640
um

4158
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:20,080
same way we ourselves are this vortex

4159
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:23,040
and what what we see and what we've exp

4160
02:53:27,910 --> 02:53:25,840
um what we've proven to ourselves

4161
02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:27,920
through many people that have reached

4162
02:53:32,790 --> 02:53:30,000
these higher points of cultivation of

4163
02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:32,800
their own bodies is that you can reach

4164
02:53:36,950 --> 02:53:34,880
higher states of existing and you can

4165
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:36,960
even navigate these interdimensional

4166
02:53:40,870 --> 02:53:38,800
realms consciously which is what

4167
02:53:43,349 --> 02:53:40,880
happened to me when i had this contact

4168
02:53:45,429 --> 02:53:43,359
experience literally

4169
02:53:47,590 --> 02:53:45,439
going into that dimensional plane

4170
02:53:49,910 --> 02:53:47,600
totally transfixed the body every

4171
02:53:51,349 --> 02:53:49,920
changed everything in that

4172
02:53:53,349 --> 02:53:51,359
activated these kinds of psychic

4173
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:53,359
abilities and i'm not a special case

4174
02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:55,279
this is a very common thing

4175
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:57,760
hundreds of contactees

4176
02:54:01,910 --> 02:53:59,760
talk about having heightened intuition

4177
02:54:04,830 --> 02:54:01,920
as a result of their contact experience

4178
02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:04,840
you know so we can reach those states

4179
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:06,960
organically and

4180
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:09,120
i was able to reach those states without

4181
02:54:14,469 --> 02:54:11,359
any kind of influence of chemicals or

4182
02:54:15,269 --> 02:54:14,479
drugs or mushrooms or ayahuasca any of

4183
02:54:20,070 --> 02:54:15,279
that

4184
02:54:22,309 --> 02:54:20,080
organically too as well going to in into

4185
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:22,319
these states or did you have somebody uh

4186
02:54:27,510 --> 02:54:24,240
tell you what to do and guide you

4187
02:54:30,309 --> 02:54:27,520
no for me uh it was it was completely

4188
02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:30,319
myself organic exploration my only

4189
02:54:35,750 --> 02:54:32,800
question during this work was

4190
02:54:37,990 --> 02:54:35,760
i wanted to know what truth was what is

4191
02:54:38,950 --> 02:54:38,000
true what is real then that was my

4192
02:54:41,269 --> 02:54:38,960
question

4193
02:54:43,349 --> 02:54:41,279
um you know and and i think by

4194
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:43,359
continuing to ask that question i was

4195
02:54:46,469 --> 02:54:44,800
able to kind of experience these

4196
02:54:48,309 --> 02:54:46,479
different things without having

4197
02:54:49,750 --> 02:54:48,319
expectations or fears about what i was

4198
02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:49,760
going to find

4199
02:54:52,469 --> 02:54:50,880
you know so

4200
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:52,479
you have to kind of have a little bit of

4201
02:54:56,550 --> 02:54:53,920
courage when you go into in these

4202
02:54:59,110 --> 02:54:56,560
directions you know to see yourself and

4203
02:55:00,710 --> 02:54:59,120
to see things externally that might seem

4204
02:55:03,830 --> 02:55:00,720
kind of different

4205
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:03,840
so um this is when you understand that

4206
02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:05,920
you begin to see the construct of your

4207
02:55:09,590 --> 02:55:07,680
physical body and there is a certain

4208
02:55:11,750 --> 02:55:09,600
mechanism there is an order there is a

4209
02:55:14,469 --> 02:55:11,760
way to utilize this instrument of a

4210
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:14,479
physical body when you learn how to spin

4211
02:55:19,990 --> 02:55:17,279
your vortex at a faster rate

4212
02:55:20,950 --> 02:55:20,000
how do you do that by entering into the

4213
02:55:24,309 --> 02:55:20,960
bliss

4214
02:55:26,389 --> 02:55:24,319
state which emerges from that state of

4215
02:55:29,110 --> 02:55:26,399
neutrality that we were talking about

4216
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:29,120
not only does consciousness emerge but

4217
02:55:35,110 --> 02:55:31,520
you enter into the state of bliss this

4218
02:55:37,590 --> 02:55:35,120
is ecstasy this is that orgasmic state

4219
02:55:39,269 --> 02:55:37,600
when we orgasm the physical body we feel

4220
02:55:42,309 --> 02:55:39,279
like it dissolves you feel like you

4221
02:55:44,630 --> 02:55:42,319
become one with everything and this kind

4222
02:55:47,510 --> 02:55:44,640
of life force that is created from the

4223
02:55:51,510 --> 02:55:47,520
orgasm is one of the most powerful life

4224
02:55:52,870 --> 02:55:51,520
forces that exists among among us humans

4225
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:52,880
and

4226
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:54,560
this is very important it plays a role

4227
02:55:59,030 --> 02:55:56,560
in the hybridization program as well

4228
02:56:01,750 --> 02:55:59,040
because there's a difference between the

4229
02:56:05,030 --> 02:56:01,760
hybrids that are created from mechanical

4230
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:05,040
insemination and organic insemination

4231
02:56:09,750 --> 02:56:06,640
which means humans

4232
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:09,760
also scenarios are constructed where

4233
02:56:14,150 --> 02:56:12,240
two humans are made to make love a

4234
02:56:16,150 --> 02:56:14,160
scenario of love

4235
02:56:18,070 --> 02:56:16,160
and there's also other scenarios where

4236
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:18,080
they're very traumatizing

4237
02:56:23,110 --> 02:56:20,240
the moment of insemination is an

4238
02:56:25,670 --> 02:56:23,120
explosion of life force that is encoded

4239
02:56:28,150 --> 02:56:25,680
within there a vibrational frequency

4240
02:56:32,469 --> 02:56:28,160
that is encoded the kind of experience

4241
02:56:36,550 --> 02:56:32,479
and the intention bringing that human in

4242
02:56:38,710 --> 02:56:36,560
for many centuries people have studied

4243
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:38,720
practices like

4244
02:56:42,950 --> 02:56:41,520
taoist practices of cultivation of sex

4245
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:42,960
energy

4246
02:56:46,950 --> 02:56:45,200
kundalini's uh you know have also

4247
02:56:49,990 --> 02:56:46,960
studied this as well

4248
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:50,000
uh in the transmutation of life force

4249
02:56:56,309 --> 02:56:53,279
instead of spilling um the seed you

4250
02:56:59,510 --> 02:56:56,319
cultivate that seed and over time it

4251
02:57:01,429 --> 02:56:59,520
generates into a very potent intentional

4252
02:57:04,070 --> 02:57:01,439
life force

4253
02:57:06,469 --> 02:57:04,080
children that are created in this way

4254
02:57:08,469 --> 02:57:06,479
are a completely different

4255
02:57:10,710 --> 02:57:08,479
construct energetically

4256
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:10,720
okay and we have humans on earth that

4257
02:57:14,230 --> 02:57:12,560
have were conceived in that way and they

4258
02:57:15,910 --> 02:57:14,240
have a completely different construct

4259
02:57:17,670 --> 02:57:15,920
this is something that i am studying and

4260
02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:17,680
writing in my book now

4261
02:57:21,349 --> 02:57:19,279
um but

4262
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:21,359
i discovered this as a result of the

4263
02:57:24,790 --> 02:57:23,359
hybridization program because the

4264
02:57:27,590 --> 02:57:24,800
different kinds of beings that are

4265
02:57:29,590 --> 02:57:27,600
created the intention which they are

4266
02:57:33,030 --> 02:57:29,600
they are created in that insemination

4267
02:57:35,429 --> 02:57:33,040
process dictates all of the experiences

4268
02:57:36,790 --> 02:57:35,439
of their life and that their potential

4269
02:57:38,870 --> 02:57:36,800
of reaching

4270
02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:38,880
humans are the same

4271
02:57:42,309 --> 02:57:39,680
so

4272
02:57:44,469 --> 02:57:42,319
when we bring a life into this world we

4273
02:57:46,630 --> 02:57:44,479
need to do it with intention a child

4274
02:57:48,710 --> 02:57:46,640
that is brought in without conscious

4275
02:57:50,630 --> 02:57:48,720
intention the child knows that it's

4276
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:50,640
imprinted in their genetic in their

4277
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:52,560
subconscious mind in their entire

4278
02:57:56,870 --> 02:57:54,720
structure of the organism

4279
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:56,880
the morphogenetic field that is created

4280
02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:58,560
with this intention

4281
02:58:03,190 --> 02:58:00,720
it creates a form just the way

4282
02:58:05,269 --> 02:58:03,200
crystallized crystals you know they they

4283
02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:05,279
hold a certain vibrational frequency so

4284
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:08,560
our human body uh very much is like that

4285
02:58:14,309 --> 02:58:10,960
so this kind of goes into a whole other

4286
02:58:15,990 --> 02:58:14,319
uh realm of understanding how powerful

4287
02:58:19,670 --> 02:58:16,000
our creativity

4288
02:58:21,670 --> 02:58:19,680
uh creativity creative potential is we

4289
02:58:23,349 --> 02:58:21,680
are creating through thought we are

4290
02:58:25,429 --> 02:58:23,359
creating through the words that we speak

4291
02:58:27,510 --> 02:58:25,439
and we create through intention and the

4292
02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:27,520
lives that we bring in in all

4293
02:58:33,429 --> 02:58:30,640
dimensional layers bringing a new human

4294
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:33,439
into the world is an entanglement so we

4295
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:35,200
have to use that entanglement

4296
02:58:40,550 --> 02:58:38,000
productively through our conscious

4297
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:40,560
transmutation heightened cultivation of

4298
02:58:45,910 --> 02:58:42,800
life force we can affect all of our

4299
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:45,920
fragments and therefore anchor life

4300
02:58:51,429 --> 02:58:49,279
force or that consciousness into all the

4301
02:58:54,790 --> 02:58:51,439
organisms from which are connected

4302
02:58:56,630 --> 02:58:54,800
genetically to this uh human vessel

4303
02:58:59,670 --> 02:58:56,640
you know so it's it's very interesting

4304
02:59:03,110 --> 02:58:59,680
but we can really change a lot

4305
02:59:04,389 --> 02:59:03,120
past world powerful powerful words

4306
02:59:07,830 --> 02:59:04,399
geraldine

4307
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:07,840
um thank you so much and uh

4308
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:09,760
i know that we've left so much on the

4309
02:59:13,670 --> 02:59:11,840
table and and we'll pick this up later

4310
02:59:15,750 --> 02:59:13,680
and uh

4311
02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:15,760
we've we're we're gonna do an

4312
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:17,600
announcement in a couple of weeks we've

4313
02:59:22,150 --> 02:59:20,240
uh got some other stuff that geraldine

4314
02:59:25,030 --> 02:59:22,160
and i are working on and we're in the

4315
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:25,040
planning stages of that right now but

4316
02:59:29,349 --> 02:59:26,800
that's gonna be a lot of fun to announce

4317
02:59:31,590 --> 02:59:29,359
that and i look forward to not only

4318
02:59:33,670 --> 02:59:31,600
seeing you very shortly but but your

4319
02:59:35,349 --> 02:59:33,680
next time here on fade to black

4320
02:59:36,389 --> 02:59:35,359
geraldine where can everybody reach out

4321
02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:36,399
to you

4322
02:59:41,110 --> 02:59:39,200
yes um you can for dna reprogramming or

4323
02:59:43,269 --> 02:59:41,120
hypnotherapy you can reach me at

4324
02:59:44,950 --> 02:59:43,279
geraldine orosco.com i think it's right

4325
02:59:47,030 --> 02:59:44,960
here and

4326
02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:47,040
for the support group it's open and it's

4327
02:59:50,870 --> 02:59:49,279
free to everyone to join i have two

4328
02:59:52,630 --> 02:59:50,880
programs at the beginning of a month and

4329
02:59:54,710 --> 02:59:52,640
one at the end of the month

4330
02:59:57,190 --> 02:59:54,720
and that's at hybridmother.com you can

4331
02:59:59,750 --> 02:59:57,200
also see many of my free

4332
03:00:01,910 --> 02:59:59,760
uh content on youtube at geraldine

4333
03:00:04,950 --> 03:00:01,920
orozco and follow me on social media

4334
03:00:07,110 --> 03:00:04,960
under my name so thank you so much jimmy

4335
03:00:08,950 --> 03:00:07,120
to ha for having me it was such an honor

4336
03:00:11,429 --> 03:00:08,960
and a pleasure and i can't wait to work

4337
03:00:13,429 --> 03:00:11,439
more yeah absolutely terribly thank you

4338
03:00:14,630 --> 03:00:13,439
so much and be safe out there

4339
03:00:16,550 --> 03:00:14,640
and uh

4340
03:00:18,630 --> 03:00:16,560
i'm actually going to be talking to you

4341
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:18,640
tomorrow so

4342
03:00:23,349 --> 03:00:20,640
i'll talk to you tomorrow

4343
03:00:26,630 --> 03:00:23,359
be well thank you so much geraldine

4344
03:00:27,429 --> 03:00:26,640
the absolute very best and uh we just

4345
03:00:29,990 --> 03:00:27,439
went

4346
03:00:32,630 --> 03:00:30,000
uh pulled a poll right there beginning

4347
03:00:34,150 --> 03:00:32,640
to end geraldine roscoe yeah we've got a

4348
03:00:35,590 --> 03:00:34,160
couple of things that we're working on

4349
03:00:38,790 --> 03:00:35,600
at the moment we will make those

4350
03:00:42,389 --> 03:00:38,800
announcements uh here very soon

4351
03:00:44,870 --> 03:00:42,399
but i also look forward to uh geraldine

4352
03:00:48,309 --> 03:00:44,880
uh being on with us again

4353
03:00:49,510 --> 03:00:48,319
we had so much to discuss tonight um we

4354
03:00:51,190 --> 03:00:49,520
could have done a whole show on

4355
03:00:53,349 --> 03:00:51,200
consciousness we could have done just a

4356
03:00:55,750 --> 03:00:53,359
whole show just on contact

4357
03:00:59,030 --> 03:00:55,760
and and and all of these little

4358
03:01:02,070 --> 03:00:59,040
subcategories and expand out um into

4359
03:01:04,710 --> 03:01:02,080
them and we will do that again very soon

4360
03:01:07,670 --> 03:01:04,720
so thank you so much geraldine great

4361
03:01:11,110 --> 03:01:07,680
show geraldine moscow.com the links are

4362
03:01:13,429 --> 03:01:11,120
below we also have it uh up throughout

4363
03:01:15,110 --> 03:01:13,439
social media i want to remind everybody

4364
03:01:16,630 --> 03:01:15,120
what we are doing tomorrow night right

4365
03:01:19,590 --> 03:01:16,640
here

4366
03:01:21,030 --> 03:01:19,600
christina gomez that's right

4367
03:01:22,309 --> 03:01:21,040
tomorrow night i'm gonna find out what

4368
03:01:24,469 --> 03:01:22,319
makes her tick

4369
03:01:27,670 --> 03:01:24,479
and i've been pushing and pushing for

4370
03:01:29,349 --> 03:01:27,680
this for a very long time and so i'm

4371
03:01:32,469 --> 03:01:29,359
pretty excited about that you guys get

4372
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:32,479
ready uh tomorrow night a full show

4373
03:01:37,349 --> 03:01:34,399
with christina gomez

4374
03:01:39,590 --> 03:01:37,359
and then of course on uh

4375
03:01:43,429 --> 03:01:39,600
wednesday night here's the thing

4376
03:01:46,550 --> 03:01:43,439
um the shows this week

4377
03:01:49,190 --> 03:01:46,560
very comprehensive uh very brilliant

4378
03:01:52,309 --> 03:01:49,200
minds are on with us this week and

4379
03:01:54,950 --> 03:01:52,319
wednesday night it is melissa tittle and

4380
03:01:56,469 --> 03:01:54,960
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4381
03:02:00,150 --> 03:01:56,479
many many years

4382
03:02:01,990 --> 03:02:00,160
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4383
03:02:04,309 --> 03:02:02,000
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03:02:08,150 --> 03:02:06,399
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4388
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4399
03:02:38,150 --> 03:02:34,800
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4400
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